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4 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2009 - 11:35AM #41
Keithric
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Yay, everyone got what they wanted
1) An official response
2) Clarification of the doc
3) The assassin gets the toys he needs

Keith Richmond
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4 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2009 - 2:19PM #42
Gadren
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Oct 13, 2009 -- 9:17AM, WotC_Tulach wrote:


Shadow Initiate is totally legal for play. It debuted in the Character Builder, thus it's good. 


Sometimes, you just need to think about this from a common sense perspective - is there a good reason why it shouldn't be allowed? 


Default for all content is it's allowed, unless we specify in either the content description or the Character Creation Guide that it isn't.



Thankyou for replying to my message in such a timely manner, Mr. Tulach!

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4 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2009 - 7:56PM #43
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It's a rarity, but at least we have a definitive answer. 

Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials.  So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy.  Can we just get back to real 4e?

Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki.

1. Wizards fight dirty.  They hit their enemies in the NADs. -- Dragon9
2. A barbarian hits people with his axe.  A warlord hits people with his barbarian.
3. Boo-freakin'-hoo, ya light-slingin' finger-wigglers. -- MrCelcius in response to the Cleric's Healer's Lore nerf
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4 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2009 - 7:59PM #44
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Notes: Implement Expertise (Ki Focuses) is allowed, as that feat was published as applying to all implements
Shadow Meld (Assassin Utility 2) renamed Shadowed Legion
Intent to Murder (Assassin attack 29) appears to be missing
Only material from the Assassin articles appears to be included in the October update
Ki Focuses (magic) should be turned ON (legal) because of a line from the Assassin (heroic tier) article:
 Page 18, middle column, second paragraph:
  You can imbue your ki focus with magic as if it were a physical implement.

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4 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2009 - 7:59PM #45
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Oct 13, 2009 -- 7:56PM, Dragon9 wrote:


It's a rarity, but at least we have a definitive answer. 





But wait.. are definitive answers legal in LFR?

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4 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2009 - 8:20PM #46
Gadren
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Oct 13, 2009 -- 7:59PM, Istaran wrote:


Oct 13, 2009 -- 7:56PM, Dragon9 wrote:


It's a rarity, but at least we have a definitive answer. 





But wait.. are definitive answers legal in LFR?




You're right. Tulach isn't quoted as a legal rules source in the CCG, so I guess we can't apply it Tongue out

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4 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2009 - 8:28PM #47
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Oct 13, 2009 -- 8:20PM, Gadren wrote:


Oct 13, 2009 -- 7:59PM, Istaran wrote:


Oct 13, 2009 -- 7:56PM, Dragon9 wrote:


It's a rarity, but at least we have a definitive answer. 





But wait.. are definitive answers legal in LFR?




You're right. Tulach isn't quoted as a legal rules source in the CCG, so I guess we can't apply it




But wait, if Tulach isn't a legal rules source, doesn't that mean the CCG isn't a legal rules source? And if the CCG isn't a legal rules source, doesn't that mean that it doesn't have the authority to bequeath legality to other rules sources? And if not, does that mean we cannot, in fact, play warforged in LFR?

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4 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2009 - 8:30PM #48
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Oct 13, 2009 -- 8:28PM, Istaran wrote:


Oct 13, 2009 -- 8:20PM, Gadren wrote:


Oct 13, 2009 -- 7:59PM, Istaran wrote:


Oct 13, 2009 -- 7:56PM, Dragon9 wrote:


It's a rarity, but at least we have a definitive answer. 





But wait.. are definitive answers legal in LFR?




You're right. Tulach isn't quoted as a legal rules source in the CCG, so I guess we can't apply it





But wait, if Tulach isn't a legal rules source, doesn't that mean the CCG isn't a legal rules source? And if the CCG isn't a legal rules source, doesn't that mean that it doesn't have the authority to bequeath legality to other rules sources? And if not, does that mean we cannot, in fact, play warforged in LFR?




*Head asplode*


(Right after I coup de graced Istaran for making a Warforged crack, of course.)

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4 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2009 - 9:04PM #49
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Oct 13, 2009 -- 8:28PM, Istaran wrote:


Oct 13, 2009 -- 8:20PM, Gadren wrote:


Oct 13, 2009 -- 7:59PM, Istaran wrote:


Oct 13, 2009 -- 7:56PM, Dragon9 wrote:


It's a rarity, but at least we have a definitive answer. 





But wait.. are definitive answers legal in LFR?




You're right. Tulach isn't quoted as a legal rules source in the CCG, so I guess we can't apply it





But wait, if Tulach isn't a legal rules source, doesn't that mean the CCG isn't a legal rules source? And if the CCG isn't a legal rules source, doesn't that mean that it doesn't have the authority to bequeath legality to other rules sources? And if not, does that mean we cannot, in fact, play warforged in LFR?




Elementary my dear Istaran.

Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials.  So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy.  Can we just get back to real 4e?

Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki.

1. Wizards fight dirty.  They hit their enemies in the NADs. -- Dragon9
2. A barbarian hits people with his axe.  A warlord hits people with his barbarian.
3. Boo-freakin'-hoo, ya light-slingin' finger-wigglers. -- MrCelcius in response to the Cleric's Healer's Lore nerf
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4 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2009 - 10:57PM #50
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yay I'm not crazy, and the english language still has some meaning left in it!

Blah blah blah
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