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So I have a question that probably doesn't come up a lot. It's something that's never really come up in the group I play with in non-LG settings, but we, like most groups making up some of their own rules, just said "Yeah, sure whatever."

Can I have a half-breed that isn't half human? Specifically I'm wanting to cross an elf with a halfling (ignore the improbability of an elf ever wanting to do such a thing).

I've never read a rule against it, but I've also never read anything detailing how you would go about it, like with the half-elf and half-orc humans. Nor have I read of an example character, or even of any characters as far as I got through the LG database, that were half-anything-but-human.

I could cut in half all the racial traits or whatever and assume he'd have no preferred class, but I really want to know if he'd be turned down if I brought him to an actual event.

NikiCole wrote:

So I have a question that probably doesn't come up a lot. It's something that's never really come up in the group I play with in non-LG settings, but we, like most groups making up some of their own rules, just said "Yeah, sure whatever."

Can I have a half-breed that isn't half human? Specifically I'm wanting to cross an elf with a halfling (ignore the improbability of an elf ever wanting to do such a thing).

I've never read a rule against it, but I've also never read anything detailing how you would go about it, like with the half-elf and half-orc humans. Nor have I read of an example character, or even of any characters as far as I got through the LG database, that were half-anything-but-human.

I could cut in half all the racial traits or whatever and assume he'd have no preferred class, but I really want to know if he'd be turned down if I brought him to an actual event.

It depends on the why or more appropriately the where. In LG, what you see is what you get. Don't see a elf/halfling, then it isn't an option. For color, you may describe something as one thing but mechanically and factually it is another. So you could have a Half-elf that is at the shortest and lightest allowed for the race and pretend they are part halfling, but it would just be a part human fooling themselves.

Now in other campaigns, I've seen it work. Midnight has just such a race. I forget the name, but my wife played such a character.

I guess the Core conceit is that only humans and elves pair willingly. Orcs rape humans and slaughter just about everyone else. Dragons, fiends and angels evidently mate with just about anything that moves and has some modicum of intelligence. The other races just don't mingle much.

Now in the realms, dwarves mated with humans and produced pure dwarves (though a little tall IIRC) until the Thunder Blessing gave them greater fertility. In Dragonlance, dwarves mated with gnomes or kender (I don't recall which) and produced the much detested gully dwarves. I don't recall many other such pairings.

_metz_ wrote:

Living Greyhawk uses PHB half elves, so only those variants are permitted unfortunately.

With some creativity however, you could make a hlaf orc/half elf or half dwarf/half elf or something characterful like that using the same mechanic.

I'm a little confused. What I was planning was a half-elf half-halfling (not an entirely new race altogether, just the son of an elf and halfling). I was thinking high elf and tallfellow halfling to be precise. That way some of the racial stats line up already. The problem then would just be whether or not he's immune to sleep, does he get a bonus to saving roles, does he have low-light vision, etc.

Using a tallfellow makes it almost believable that an elf went into this willingly as well .

I have yet to use one character I accidentally created in one home campaign and thought it would be hilarious to write the stats for. He's half-gnome quarter-human quarter-orc. Always ask the DM what race the bar-wench is BEFORE drunkenly grabbing her butt.

RanielK wrote:

Dragons, fiends and angels evidently mate with just about anything that moves and has some modicum of intelligence.

And some that do not.

I'll just say half-dragon stirges and leave you to ponder the logistics of that.

:D

Just to re-iterate for the original poster, Living Greyhawk does not allow for rules bending like that. If a thing is not specifically allowed by a published rules source, it's not allowed period.


-karma