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5 years ago ::
May 24, 2008 - 4:23PM
#11
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Date Joined:
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ok so far i have
pearl "the iotharythear ux isk caex of bahamuti" goldenheart
half elf marshal1/paladin4/ out cast champ5 back to marshal if i get the chance
role melee fighter battle feild leader
str10
dex16
con16
int8
wis12
cha10 both points droped here and cloak of cha
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str10
dex16
con14 +2 item here
int8
wis11 lvl 4 point droped into here
cha14 lvl 8 point here + cloak of cha
lvl1marshal weapon finesess (motavate dex)
lvl2pally
lvl3pally imp weapon familiarity
lvl4pally
lvl5pally(for the mount to get around) or hitting into Outcast champ
lvl 6 any + to smitting or + to turning as i can get
pearl's oath of service "i swear buy the great dragon king ,lord bahamut.I will be a becon of light and goodness when all others go out and become a becon of hope where hope is stamed out to the point that no hope is left ,to defend those who cant defend them self in there darkest hour and those show they have not been forgotten! to show kindess where it is needed most and to protect the weak the innocent and the down trotten and to see no evil is alowed to florish and that no inocents are harmed. to be a dragon among men as noble as any gold and as kind as any silver this I swear"
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5 years ago ::
May 24, 2008 - 5:04PM
#12
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Date Joined:
Feb 26, 2006
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ok so far i have
pearl "the iotharythear ux isk caex of bahamuti" goldenheart
half elf marshal1/paladin4/ out cast champ5 back to marshal if i get the chance
role melee fighter battle feild leader
str10
dex16
con16
int8
wis12
cha10 both points droped here and cloak of cha
or
str10
dex16
con14 +2 item here
int8
wis11 lvl 4 point droped into here
cha14 lvl 8 point here + cloak of cha
lvl1marshal weapon finesess (motavate dex)
lvl2pally
lvl3pally imp weapon familiarity
lvl4pally
lvl5pally(for the mount to get around) or hitting into Outcast champ
lvl 6 any + to smitting or + to turning as i can get
pearl's oath of service "i swear buy the great dragon king ,lord bahamut.I will be a becon of light and goodness when all others go out and become a becon of hope where hope is stamed out to the point that no hope is left ,to defend those who cant defend them self in there darkest hour and those show they have not been forgotten! to show kindess where it is needed most and to protect the weak the innocent and the down trotten and to see no evil is alowed to florish and that no inocents are harmed. to be a dragon among men as noble as any gold and as kind as any silver this I swear"
You would really be so much better off dropping dex to 10-12, wearing full plate/heavy plate, and investing more heavily in strength so you have some worthwhile damage. Also, I'd drop con to 14...those extra 6 points can be put to so much better use.
Race:Half-Elf
Alignment:Lawful Good
STR-16 (10)
DEX-10 (2)
CON-14 (6)
INT-10 (2)
WIS-10 (2)
CHA-14 (6)
Lv1(Marshal)Skill Focus (Diplomacy), Improved Weapon Familiarity, Motivate Dex
Lv2(Marshal)Resilient Troops
Lv3(Marshal)Power Attack, Motivate Charisma
Lv4(Paladin)+1 STR
Lv5(Paladin)
Lv6(Outcast Champion)Intimidating Strike
Lv7(Outcast Champion)
Lv8(Outcast Champion)+1 STR
Lv9(Outcast Champion)Feat
Lv10(Outcast Champion)
You'd get a suit of heavy plate as soon as possible...still swinging the elven courtblade, use motivate dex to help yourself and allies go first, motivate charisma to help with the talky stuff. Max out intimidate and get the synergy from bluff and such, and you'll be able to use intimidating strike to simulate a draconic aura of fear against a single foe you strike. You would feel much more useful with something like this.
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5 years ago ::
May 24, 2008 - 5:37PM
#13
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Date Joined:
Apr 12, 2006
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You would really be so much better off dropping dex to 10-12, wearing full plate/heavy plate, and investing more heavily in strength so you have some worthwhile damage. Also, I'd drop con to 14...those extra 6 points can be put to so much better use.
Race:Half-Elf
Alignment:Lawful Good
STR-16 (10)
DEX-10 (2)
CON-14 (6)
INT-10 (2)
WIS-10 (2)
CHA-14 (6)
Lv1(Marshal)Skill Focus (Diplomacy), Improved Weapon Familiarity, Motivate Dex
Lv2(Marshal)Resilient Troops
Lv3(Marshal)Power Attack, Motivate Charisma
Lv4(Paladin)+1 STR
Lv5(Paladin)
Lv6(Outcast Champion)Intimidating Strike
Lv7(Outcast Champion)
Lv8(Outcast Champion)+1 STR
Lv9(Outcast Champion)feat
Lv10(Outcast Champion)
You'd get a suit of heavy plate as soon as possible...still swinging the elven courtblade, use motivate dex to help yourself and allies go first, motivate charisma to help with the talky stuff. Max out intimidate and get the synergy from bluff and such, and you'll be able to use intimidating strike to simulate a draconic aura of fear against a single foe you strike. You would feel much more useful with something like this.
gess going dex for 1st strike abilitys is kinda pointless if i can't make my self a threat. if im not getting spells i can drop wis down more if its called for. fear is so dragon like il will so be looking it up going to miss divine health and aura of courage eh whats the odds if me needing it then again it is keoland and our writers love to kill us off there so good at it and the scary thing is there getting better at it all the time! cha is good idea and with a cloak of cha and boots of dex to make up the +3 dex for mithril full plate(should i get so lucky) auras look good bet the int was raised to let me get the skills i need need to sink one into speak language for dragon
loss of 1 hp per lvl gess it cant hurt that much most likly in keoland 1 hp a lvl wont stop u from dieing
wish i could go dragon born after i get out cast champ but then i couldnt be a outcast champ i bet lol
think ill use lvl 9 feat for improved crit if i have yet to get keen on my blade
if i have ill use it to make shure i crit lol
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5 years ago ::
May 25, 2008 - 9:37AM
#14
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Date Joined:
Apr 12, 2006
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Race:Half-Elf
Alignment:Lawful Good
STR-16 (10)
DEX-10 (2)
CON-14 (6)
INT-10 (2)
WIS-10 (2)
CHA-14 (6)
Lv1(Marshal)Skill Focus (Diplomacy), Improved Weapon Familiarity, Motivate Dex
Lv2(Marshal)Resilient Troops
Lv3(Marshal)Power Attack, Motivate Charisma
Lv4(Paladin)+1 STR
Lv5(Paladin)
Lv6(Outcast Champion)Intimidating Strike
Lv7(Outcast Champion)
Lv8(Outcast Champion)+1 STR
Lv9(Outcast Champion)Feat
Lv10(Outcast Champion)
um ill have to take the pally lvls first cuse Improved Weapon Familiarity needs a +1 bab but marshals dont get that till lvl 2 so it will look like
Lv1(Paladin)Improved Weapon Familiarity
Lv2(Paladin)
Lv3(Marshal)Skill Focus (Diplomacy),Power Attack,Motivate Dex
Lv4(Marshal)Resilient Troops (Marshal),+1 STR
lvl5(Marshal)Motivate Charisma
Lv6(Outcast Champion)Intimidating Strike
Lv7(Outcast Champion)
Lv8(Outcast Champion)+1 STR
Lv9(Outcast Champion)Feat
Lv10(Outcast Champion)
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5 years ago ::
May 25, 2008 - 11:56AM
#15
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Date Joined:
Jun 26, 2004
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Why are you wasting a feat on IWF?
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5 years ago ::
May 25, 2008 - 12:23PM
#16
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Date Joined:
Apr 12, 2006
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why cuse there is 2 schools of thought on weapon damage crit
crit big nubers X3 and X4 or criting offen 18-20 16-20 on a keen me i like to crit offen cuse its a more stable way of getting lots of dmg as well as the blades im using can use peircing and slashing unlike a great sword which is just slashing and a long sword which is again just slashing that and it give her a bit of flavor the fact she grew up with both humans and elves true i lose 2 dmg top end and 1 dmg low end but the crits more than make up for it
as does the fact i can use it in more ways giving me more flexability
courtblade 1d10 so 1-1018-20/X2 (16-20/x2 with keen) slashing and peirceing vs geat sword 2d6 so 2-12 19-20/X2 (18-20with keen) slashing
thinblade 1d6 -16 18-20/x2 (16-20/x2 with keen)slashing and peirceing vs long sword 1d8 so 1-8 19-20/X2 (18-20/2 with keen) slashing
the ability to crit more offen is a geat thing most times
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5 years ago ::
May 25, 2008 - 6:01PM
#17
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Sorry there were errors in my original post. I am s-blocking the rest of my reply because it's irrelevant and basically a huge rant, but I'd like ornsjach at least to read it. Spoiler:
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but wouldnt the lose to cha hurt me been looking around and in my books thinking of taking at lest 4-5 pally lvls and 4 marshal mabe 2 of ranger(so i can twf) if i can get away with it with out the xp dmg that way i can be a good fighter/battle feild leader. although if i dont take outcast champ lvls it may work. as for PsC im looking at one of the fallowing (have yet to check if there leagil seeing im just brainstorming dragon lord, dragon devotee, outcast champ (if half elf), kensai
thinking that modavating ppl could be helpfull as can being able to be a good face for my groups(how many times have i seen us need it and not have it could have saved my last char but i detest) and be usefull in a fight not so much as a strait fighting/tanking class but more flexable if i do go with the marshal lvls im thinking mot char and mot dex as my minors and as my major mot atk
half elf or dwarf only plz
ps not a skill monky only skills needed are for the PsC i end up with and heal(for a feat im thinking of taking spon healer) relig diplo
... *rubs temples*
I can't read this post (or subsequent posts by the same author). Essentially, it's written in what I call "Internet shorthand"- which is fine, because it works on the theory that everything should be as simple and easy to type as possible, making the author's life easier. Generally speaking in life simple is better, but this is an exception.
Why? Well I've found that "Internet shorthand" simply passes the burden onto the reader- and since on a web forum there's only one author and potentially many readers, this makes communication... extraordinarily inefficient.
May I suggest the following:
1) PUNCTUATION! Full stops, commas, apostrophes- these are essential to easy communication. Please.
2) Much fewer abbreviations. We're not being charged by the character here- just type "people" instead of "ppl". "charisma" instead of "cha", etc. Do NOT use letters instead of words ("I want 2 go"). Also, when using an abbreviation, it's common practice to define the abbreviation before using it- for example, "I want to make a Two-Weapon Fighting (TWF) rogue. Is TWF a good path for rogues?"
3) Spell-checker. I usually don't care about spelling, mostly because my own spelling is awful, but there's a spell-checker built into the posting tool. It will catch minor errors, once again making your reader's lives easier. Use it. It's a right-click away.
4) Capitalise the first word in a sentence. It helps a great deal to break up your sentences and makes things easier to read, especially when combined with point 1.
5) Personal hate: Loss/lose/loose. You LOSE at cards. You suffered a LOSS on the stock market. Your shoelace is LOOSE.
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5 years ago ::
May 25, 2008 - 7:59PM
#18
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Date Joined:
Jan 15, 2007
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Sorry there were errors in my original post. I am s-blocking the rest of my reply because it's irrelevant and basically a huge rant, but I'd like ornsjach at least to read it.
*hugs puggle
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5 years ago ::
May 26, 2008 - 12:58AM
#19
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Date Joined:
Jun 26, 2004
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why cuse there is 2 schools of thought on weapon damage crit
crit big nubers X3 and X4 or criting offen 18-20 16-20 on a keen me i like to crit offen cuse its a more stable way of getting lots of dmg as well as the blades im using can use peircing and slashing unlike a great sword which is just slashing and a long sword which is again just slashing that and it give her a bit of flavor the fact she grew up with both humans and elves true i lose 2 dmg top end and 1 dmg low end but the crits more than make up for it
as does the fact i can use it in more ways giving me more flexability
courtblade 1d10 so 1-1018-20/X2 (16-20/x2 with keen) slashing and peirceing vs geat sword 2d6 so 2-12 19-20/X2 (18-20with keen) slashing
thinblade 1d6 -16 18-20/x2 (16-20/x2 with keen)slashing and peirceing vs long sword 1d8 so 1-8 19-20/X2 (18-20/2 with keen) slashing
the ability to crit more offen is a geat thing most times
err what?
1) This post is almost completely incoherent
2) I don't think the ability to do piercing damage is worth as much as I think you think it's worth
2b) Slashing is worth a bit more but not much
Pretty sure it's only the Courtblade that can slash (the others are just Rapiers really)
3) Keen doubles the threat range: (18-20/x2) becomes (15-20/x2) etc
4) Wide crit ranges are valuable but the difference between exotic weapons and martial weapons generally comes down to 1 damage/hit (on average) which is not worth a Feat (you can get 2 damage for a Feat pretty easily).
Exotic exceptions:
- EWMaster: Flurry, Uncanny Blow or something else might make that feat pay
- Spiked Chain: reach, close threat, trip, Finesse +2HPA
- Courtblade: 2H PA with finesse; CoCL* entry
- Weird ones (eg Dragon Chain; Scorpion Claws): special abilities (constrict; +4 to grapple).
Puggle: I wholeheartedly agree with most of your rant but there are some acronyms that are sufficiently obvious/well known not to need explaining imo. (and I don't think you get spellchecking on the quickreply)
* just for Puggle: Champion of Corellon Larethian (wonder if I spelled that right  )
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5 years ago ::
May 26, 2008 - 2:53AM
#20
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Date Joined:
Apr 12, 2006
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the court blade is my main weapon the others just are nice to have for sword and board fighting so i figured why just get the court blade with EWP(courtblade) when i can pick up all 3 with IWF
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