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4 years ago  ::  Aug 09, 2009 - 6:53PM #31
Undrhil
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Dragon9 wrote:

This is where you are incorrect. The LFR rules state that you must choose one deity to worship. You cannot worship more than one deity.


But this only applies to people playing LFR games. If they are in a homebrew campaign, this limitation doesn't apply to them ....

And since we are in the RPGA forums, it's probably a good bet that they *are* playing LFR ... so, I'll be quiet now.

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 09, 2009 - 7:11PM #32
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Good thing you put that last line in there. I was about to smack you around.
Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials.  So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy.  Can we just get back to real 4e?

Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki.

1. Wizards fight dirty.  They hit their enemies in the NADs. -- Dragon9
2. A barbarian hits people with his axe.  A warlord hits people with his barbarian.
3. Boo-freakin'-hoo, ya light-slingin' finger-wigglers. -- MrCelcius in response to the Cleric's Healer's Lore nerf
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 09, 2009 - 10:30PM #33
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I think what he meant is that you'd worship the main god for everything mechanically and rules-wise. You'd have that god on your character sheet and take feats and powers for that god. But in-character, you worship the exarch or lesser god who is associated with the main god.

There wouldn't be any in game effects from worshiping 2 gods because for all intents and purposes you'd be worshiping the main god. You wouldn't get to take any feats or anything based on the exarch, and it would potentially be confusing unless the exarch has no game options (which is why you'd probably do something like this anyway).

The in-character worship of the exarch would purely be a fluff choice.


I was thinking of doing something like this with my cleric if it's not against the rules. My cleric worships Uthgar (an exarch of Tempus). So far Uthgar has no options whatsoever. I'm fully expecting him to get ignored in the Dragon article. If that happens, and I can't take any domain feats or anything for my character I'm considering converting him to Tempus for all crunch aspects of the character, but continue to worship Uthgar in character. (Unless that's illegal.)
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 10, 2009 - 3:35AM #34
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Crodocile wrote:

I was thinking of doing something like this with my cleric if it's not against the rules. My cleric worships Uthgar (an exarch of Tempus). So far Uthgar has no options whatsoever. I'm fully expecting him to get ignored in the Dragon article. If that happens, and I can't take any domain feats or anything for my character I'm considering converting him to Tempus for all crunch aspects of the character, but continue to worship Uthgar in character. (Unless that's illegal.)


It is. The CCG is pretty danged clear on this: if you use the Divine power source, you need to pick one deity. Not "one god, or one exarch and his god".

"Of course [Richard] has a knife.  He always has a knife.  We all have knives.  It's 1183, and we're barbarians!" - Eleanor of Aquitaine, "The Lion in Winter"
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 28, 2009 - 7:13AM #35
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The Dragon Magazine article has been released. [link]


Enjoy!

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 28, 2009 - 7:36AM #36
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And, it looks like the answer is "if you worship an exarch, no domains for you."  Only the deity-rank gods were given domains in the article, and, as far as I can see, there's no mention at all of exarchs, or what to do about them.

"Of course [Richard] has a knife.  He always has a knife.  We all have knives.  It's 1183, and we're barbarians!" - Eleanor of Aquitaine, "The Lion in Winter"
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 28, 2009 - 7:45AM #37
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Aug 28, 2009 -- 7:36AM, kenobi65 wrote:

And, it looks like the answer is "if you worship an exarch, no domains for you."  Only the deity-rank gods were given domains in the article, and, as far as I can see, there's no mention at all of exarchs, or what to do about them.


Doesn't the FRCG already tells what to do about them? If you are a divine worshipper of an exarch you are effectively worshipping that exarch's superior and might as well stick to that superior's domains and divine channeling feats.

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 28, 2009 - 8:08AM #38
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Ah excellent stuff, I've been looking forward to this article for a while! Smile


Thanks Logo! 


Daniel.

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 28, 2009 - 8:29AM #39
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Aug 28, 2009 -- 7:45AM, Madfox11 wrote:


Doesn't the FRCG already tells what to do about them? If you are a divine worshipper of an exarch you are effectively worshipping that exarch's superior and might as well stick to that superior's domains and divine channeling feats.




I don't recall the FRCG saying anything like that.


I also don't think it is true. If you worshipp an exarch, you worship a lesser power, so should have less options. It's part of the choice. It would be a bit strange if you gained more options when you worship an excrach (such as Sharess) than if you worship a lesser deity (such as Tymora).


I think Exarchs should have one domain, but I can imagine it is too much hassle, so they get none.


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4 years ago  ::  Aug 28, 2009 - 9:37PM #40
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Aug 28, 2009 -- 7:45AM, Madfox11 wrote:


Doesn't the FRCG already tells what to do about them? If you are a divine worshipper of an exarch you are effectively worshipping that exarch's superior and might as well stick to that superior's domains and divine channeling feats.





Well, the problem is, there isn't actually a rule anywhere that says that if you worship an exarch you use the patron's domains.  So there's no legal standing for an exarch worshipper to have any domains.

Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials.  So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy.  Can we just get back to real 4e?

Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki.

1. Wizards fight dirty.  They hit their enemies in the NADs. -- Dragon9
2. A barbarian hits people with his axe.  A warlord hits people with his barbarian.
3. Boo-freakin'-hoo, ya light-slingin' finger-wigglers. -- MrCelcius in response to the Cleric's Healer's Lore nerf
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