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4 years ago  ::  Jun 16, 2009 - 8:47PM #11
matblack76
Date Joined: Aug 17, 2007
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Vamroc wrote:

Don't like cheese huh wait till people try making Revenant Warforged with the feat that them NO LONGER LIVING BEINGS then they'll be straight up constructs. Which brings up a good question what would happen if a Revenant Warforged did take that feat. Because I can see a whole can of worms being open the PC would still be able to take any Warforged component and because they're no longer living they can take any item previously restricted to them as Living Constructs. Plus they'll be treated as undead as per the Revenant class feature it almost makes me want to go build one right now just to watch my DM's head explode.


a revenant taking warforged as its "former" race would not get any additional benefit from taking that feat. choosing warforged for that option does not give them any benefit except for being able to take feats, pps, etc. that require warforged as a prereq.

to be clear: you cannot play an undead construct in lfr. at least, not yet. give it another year or so.

but, to steer it back on track:

i haven't had a chance to look at the epg yet, but i'm very happy to hear that they've clarified and streamlined the component rules.

i wonder if i could find a way to make an ornithopter into a component...

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 16, 2009 - 8:53PM #12
Vamroc
Date Joined: Feb 6, 2006
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matblack76 wrote:

a revenant taking warforged as its "former" race would not get any additional benefit from taking that feat. choosing warforged for that option does not give them any benefit except for being able to take feats, pps, etc. that require warforged as a prereq.

to be clear: you cannot play an undead construct in lfr. at least, not yet. give it another year or so.

but, to steer it back on track:

i haven't had a chance to look at the epg yet, but i'm very happy to hear that they've clarified and streamlined the component rules.

i wonder if i could find a way to make an ornithopter into a component...


but that's just it revenant are not undead theyre only treated as undead for powers and effects and the feat simply states you are no longer living.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 16, 2009 - 8:55PM #13
Vamroc
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Dragon9 wrote:

Make it a worshiper of Kelemvor and then you will have the pleasure of watching it implode and create a black hole. Exploding is so yesterday...


There is also nothing to stop me from make him a Damphyr either
Warforged Damphyr Revenant Cleric of Kelemvor :evillaugh

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 16, 2009 - 8:57PM #14
matblack76
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Vamroc wrote:

but that's just it revenant are not undead theyre only treated as undead for powers and effects and the feat simply states you are no longer living.


right, but choosing warforged as your "former" race doesn't give you the living construct keyword, the ability to use components, or any of the other racial features of being a warforged, just they ability to take the feats and pps.

a warforged revenant with the feat in question (i don't remember the name of the feat off the top of my hear) is no different than a human revenant with that feat.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 16, 2009 - 9:00PM #15
matblack76
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Vamroc wrote:

There is also nothing to stop me from make him a Damphyr either
Warforged Damphyr Revenant Cleric of Kelemvor :evillaugh


taking the feat that makes him no longer a living creature would disqualify him from taking the dhampyr bloodline... this route has been discussed on the ever-growing revenant/ is lfr losing it's setting feel thread, and i think it's a wonderful way to illustrate absurdity and ruffle some feathers.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 16, 2009 - 9:03PM #16
Sithobi1
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matblack76 wrote:

taking the feat that makes him no longer a living creature would disqualify him from taking the dhampyr bloodline... this route has been discussed on the ever-growing revenant/ is lfr losing it's setting feel thread, and i think it's a wonderful way to illustrate absurdity and ruffle some feathers.


But if you take the Vampire Heritage feat first...

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 16, 2009 - 9:09PM #17
matblack76
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Sithobi1 wrote:

But if you take the Vampire Heritage feat first...


it would, as far as i know, make you no longer eligible to use the feat. i would guess that no longer qualifying for feats doesn't happen as often in 4E as it could in 3.5... i don't have the books on me, but i'm betting it works the same way...

but, perhaps this part of the discussion should be moved to one of the revenant threads...

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 16, 2009 - 9:29PM #18
JohnLynch
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Vamroc wrote:

Don't like cheese huh wait till people try making Revenant Warforged with the feat that them NO LONGER LIVING BEINGS then they'll be straight up constructs.


Y'know I was pretty strongly against the idea of a Revenant Warforged. However that would actually make quite a bit of sense. I'm not sure if it would in LFR (can you have a revanant that looks like a golem in LFR?), I'd definitely use it in a home campaign.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 16, 2009 - 9:36PM #19
matblack76
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JohnLynch wrote:

Y'know I was pretty strongly against the idea of a Revenant Warforged. However that would actually make quite a bit of sense. I'm not sure if it would in LFR (can you have a revanant that looks like a golem in LFR?), I'd definitely use it in a home campaign.


in a home campaign, you could certainly have a revenant look like whatever you'd like it to (there's even a small section about changing the appearance of revenants for home games in the article). however, a revenant's former race doesn't actually affect what the revenant looks like in its current incarnation as far as lfr is concerned. revenants have a racial appearance as distinct as any other race in the game, regardless of what they used to be.

i really do like the idea of having a warforged come back as a revenant, as far as story is concerned... i think it could make for a very interesting character to play.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 17, 2009 - 12:44AM #20
Bigfluffylemon
Date Joined: Nov 10, 2003
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Dragon9 wrote:

No. Surprisingly, there are no Wondrous Items at all in the book. The only magic item categories are: Holy Symbols, Rods, Staffs, Wands, Totems, Warforged Components, and Dragonshard Augments.


So given that they're in a compiled issue of dragon, they're legal forever now, unless they make it into AV2 in modified form, I suppose.

Nice to know that despite pages of argument here, they neglected to rule unequivocally one way or the other, or fix the broken bit of equipment that causes the debate.

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