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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 7:48AM #1
Dragon9
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If yo haven't checked the Monk playtest that was released today, Monk power source is Psionic, NOT Ki. WTF? Not the route I woudl have gone. I guess that means we can confirm that Psionics will be in PHB3.
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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 8:18AM #2
Ishida_Ide
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Looks like there won't be a ki power source at all:

Check out the Design & Development peice from Mike Mearls.

"Design & Development"]The biggest, and perhaps most obvious, change is that the monk is now psionic. How, you might ask, did that happen? The monk ended up where it did because the ki power source proved untenable and psionics is the next best fit. The monk in D&D uses martial arts augmented with obviously magical abilities. The class's flavor, ascetics who train their bodies and minds, provides a good template for psionic power.[/quote wrote:

The biggest, and perhaps most obvious, change is that the monk is now psionic. How, you might ask, did that happen? The monk ended up where it did because the ki power source proved untenable and psionics is the next best fit. The monk in D&D uses martial arts augmented with obviously magical abilities. The class's flavor, ascetics who train their bodies and minds, provides a good template for psionic power.


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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 8:39AM #3
Madfox11
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I always wondered about the usefullness of ki as a power source, and I find it only natural to pick psionic for monks... So I completely agree with the reasoning of the designers.
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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 8:59AM #4
gomeztoo
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It is easy to think of Ki as a type of psionics. Just have monks call their psionic power 'ki' and you are done.
Personally I am more dissapointed in having it be a striker class.
Set up in the right way, the monk would have made a great martial (!) controller class (slide, daze, or trip opponents, affect more opponents at once, etc...).

As it is, I am a bit less awed as other people seem to be with the Monk. Abit of a missed opportunity.
Not that I won't make a monk PC if the RPGA allows it.

Gomez
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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 9:03AM #5
bhale187
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psionic and it seems like an awful weak striker IMO, some cool battle field control tricks, but damage output is terrible for a striker classification.
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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 10:58AM #6
dragonstar_the_green
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gomeztoo wrote:

It is easy to think of Ki as a type of psionics. Just have monks call their psionic power 'ki' and you are done.
Personally I am more dissapointed in having it be a striker class.
Set up in the right way, the monk would have made a great martial (!) controller class (slide, daze, or trip opponents, affect more opponents at once, etc...).


I'm actually rather fond of it. It does lean towards the secondary role of controller, and i think a lot of the powers have potential. I'll play one if given he chance...

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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 12:21PM #7
bgibbons
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Considering their track record, if you have an interest in playing a monk, it might not be a bad idea to encourage them to put it in the compiled version at the end of the month. The feedback e-mail address appears to be dndinsider@wizards.com.
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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 12:46PM #8
KarmaInferno
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I'm fairly certain it WILL make it into the compiled edition.

It's listed in the TOC page, not just the general Dragon Magazine site.

Pretty much all the stuff that did not end up getting compiled was stuff listed on the general site but not on the TOC page.



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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 12:46PM #9
Mirtek
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bgibbons wrote:

Considering their track record, if you have an interest in playing a monk,


Or any other class that can use a weapon as an implement

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4 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 1:03PM #10
gomeztoo
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KarmaInferno wrote:

It's listed in the TOC page, not just the general Dragon Magazine site.


That doesn't mean much. Thwe Wilden were listed in the ToC as well, and they didn't make it in.
What looks encouraging though is that this article has pagenumbers that do not start at 1.

Gomez

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