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4 years ago ::
May 08, 2009 - 12:37PM
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The setting has never supported the idea of a character ever getting divine power from a dead god, however.
Didn't late 3.x finally release a feat for getting power from the last remnants of dead deities?
The opposite is likely, as a PC trying to champion Mystra or quietly bring back Mask is likely looking to bring fun RP to the table.
As long as they're fine with serving annother deity while trying to bring back Mystra that's fine. Mask on the other hand is a thoroughly evil deity, thus he wouldn't even be an option if he was still alive (or the campaign also starts to allow Cyricists, Banites, Sharans, ...).
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4 years ago ::
May 08, 2009 - 12:50PM
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Didn't late 3.x finally release a feat for getting power from the last remnants of dead deities?
Yeah, I think so, but consuming the flesh of a dead god / siphoning off it's last remnants isn't really the same as praying to the dead god and receiving spells, which is the key here.
The latter is receiving a gift of power, while the former is just taking it.
I can see a rogue character, claiming to be a former cleric of Mask, searching for a way to restore his deity. Could also explain why he's 1st level again. Nifty roleplaying hook.
-karma
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4 years ago ::
May 08, 2009 - 2:59PM
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Didn't late 3.x finally release a feat for getting power from the last remnants of dead deities?
As long as they're fine with serving annother deity while trying to bring back Mystra that's fine. Mask on the other hand is a thoroughly evil deity, thus he wouldn't even be an option if he was still alive (or the campaign also starts to allow Cyricists, Banites, Sharans, ...).
This presupposes that under the new alignment system Mask would be Evil instead of Unaligned. The sourcebooks in prior editions always seemed to play up the Amoral and Selfish aspect of his Neutral Evil alignment.
Besides, the OP is not playing a divine character at all. He's playing a rogue, and their is no reason in my mind that a Good or Unaligned rogue couldn't worship a god like Mask. Spells aren't an issue, the god's death isn't an issue, and really neither is his alignment... In prior editions Good characters could worship Mask - they'd play up his swashbuckling rogue side instead of his cold assassin side - but it was kosher.
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4 years ago ::
May 08, 2009 - 3:24PM
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and their is no reason in my mind that a Good or Unaligned rogue couldn't worship a god like Mask. Spells aren't an issue, the god's death isn't an issue, and really neither is his alignment... In prior editions Good characters could worship Mask - they'd play up his swashbuckling rogue side instead of his cold assassin side - but it was kosher.
I also see no reason why a unaligned character couldn't worship Cyric for his illusions and deception aspects (which a lot of ex-leirans where doing) or Shar for her loss aspect. Yet the CCG is clear on forbidding evil patron deities. And at the end of the day that's a good rule because it otherwise just opens the backdoor for people using this as an excuse for chosing said deities for their other aspects.
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4 years ago ::
May 08, 2009 - 3:36PM
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It's one of those things where, while it is technically wrong, functionally it will make zero difference.
If you want to write Mask as your deity, go for it. Chances are that it will have 0 impact on the campaign at any point. Especially as long as you play with your local group and don't make a huge issue of it. At the same time you have to go into it with the understanding that, should your choice of deity ever become important within a game, by the rules your character is not legal. If anyone ever has cause to call you on it the rules say you are wrong.
If this bothers you, find a different character concept to play.
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4 years ago ::
May 08, 2009 - 4:12PM
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This is all true as well; personally I like that the RPGA errs on the side of caution its one of the sacrifices one must make in order to have a worldwide campaign.
On the other hand, one of the reasons I dreaded replacing LG with LFR is because of the massive and weird pantheon. The 4e reboot resolved a lot of my other issues with the Realms (and I've been a "realms hater" since the early 1980s), but they really needed to do a lot more housecleaning in the pantheon. Really, its just silly.
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4 years ago ::
May 08, 2009 - 4:31PM
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On the other hand, one of the reasons I dreaded replacing LG with LFR is because of the massive and weird pantheon. The 4e reboot resolved a lot of my other issues with the Realms (and I've been a "realms hater" since the early 1980s), but they really needed to do a lot more housecleaning in the pantheon. Really, its just silly.
Massive FR pantheon? Greyhawk had just as many deities as Faerun, just count through the LG deity document. I once counted all deities on both worlds to see whether FR truly had so many more deities. The result was that both were less than 10 deities apart with over 200 each.
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4 years ago ::
May 08, 2009 - 4:46PM
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Never said I liked Greyhawk's pantheon either, now did I?  But my dreams of a Living Cerilia or Living Krynn will probably never come to pass.... much more manageable pantheons there (assuming one counts only human gods in the case of Birthright; although the nonhuman gods were few and far between.)
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4 years ago ::
May 09, 2009 - 10:06PM
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But my dreams of a Living Cerilia or Living Krynn will probably never come to pass....
And that's not a bad thing.
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4 years ago ::
May 09, 2009 - 10:33PM
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Yeah, having only 12 or so deities would be easier to remember...
until mod authors and writers come up with a different name for each one, depending on which race/culture/language is being used. Humans call the god of storms Talos. Orcs call him Grummsh.
As long as the campaign is alive and different people are contributing to it, gods will continue to proliferate until we have another cataclysm.
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