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4 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2009 - 6:30AM #1
JoshuaRandall
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What should you do if your character's GP and XP is significantly misreported?

I recently played in LURU 1-1 (high tier) with one of my characters, and he gained 175 GP and 560 XP, which took him to 3rd level. However, it was reported as 560 GP and (I'm guessing) 175 XP, so not only is his gold tally messed up, he's still listed as level 2.

I know, I know: paper records are official and the online records are just... there. But is there any way to get this fixed?
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2009 - 7:13AM #2
jeffv
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You can file an appeal. There's a link to the appeal form in the personal information center (should be the bottom link in the same sidebar that has the "My Characters" link). It's not a quick process and also not very transparent (you probably won't hear anything about it until it's fixed), but that's really your only option.
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2009 - 7:59AM #3
Keithric
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I don't even look at the online tracking anymore... it got really screwed up at one point and meh, I've got my own records at least.
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2009 - 8:20AM #4
Mirtek
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You could file an appeal like jeffv said, but I would also recommed to just handle the matter like Keithric suggests -> just ignore the online tracking.

a) No DM will ever look at it

b) In the unlikely case of a DM taking a look at it, your handwritten paper is the primary source anyway. So in any contradiction between your sheet and your online tracker the tracker is automatically considered to be wrong.
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2009 - 11:22AM #5
KarmaInferno
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I have three entire conventions plus 4 gamedays that have not shown up on my tracker.

I've filed a half dozen error reports and it hasn't resolved the issue.

So basically I gave up and just do what the CCG tells me to do, make sure my paper records are complete and up to date.



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4 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2009 - 6:40AM #6
JoshuaRandall
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So if the electronic records are so error-prone, out of date, and are generally ignored... then why do DMs have to fill them out?

Heck, why do *I* bother to fill them out when *I* DM?
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2009 - 7:00AM #7
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JoshuaRandall wrote:

So if the electronic records are so error-prone, out of date, and are generally ignored... then why do DMs have to fill them out?

Heck, why do *I* bother to fill them out when *I* DM?


I don't anymore. I gave up.

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2009 - 8:01AM #8
Keithric
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Well, rewards used to be based on reporting them, so it was a disservice to your players not to report them. Now it's a disservice to yourself since you won't get the free tile or mini or cards or whatever it is they end up sending DMs.

Also, just because online gets screwed up isn't an excuse to intentionally screw it up for someone else - I know many players who it is fine for... I think it's primarily some of us who went to certain conventions that don't care anymore
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2009 - 10:15AM #9
Telvin3d
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Since rewards top out after running 5 games, I don't feel much impetus to pay much attention. I have gotten into the habit of reporting a bunch of games every couple weeks. Most of the time I don't even bother sanctioning the games before they are played if I already have the PDF. I admit that this might not be the greatest thing for the RPGA's player spastics, but since the system is a pain to use and provides no benefit to either DMs or players I don't feel particularly bad about it.

If they want people to take the time to jump through their hoops I figure they have two good options. First is to improve the DM bribes... I mean reward system. The other easy fix would be to make the tracker accountable and accurate so that it is a useful resource. Without either of those, I suspect it will go further and further downhill as more and more people get tired of jumping through hoops as it gets worse and worse...
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2009 - 12:28PM #10
imperatrix
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Joshua---

Others have already responded how to correct the discrepancy between your paper and online character tracking, so I won't address that.

I will tell you that I feel your pain, though. I never played much LG, who did all their tracking on paper, but I played a lot of XE, who did ALL their tracking online. I understand your desire to have both your paper and your online trackers match, and I wish you well with getting your records updated. It annoys me that my two characters both have reporting errors, but thankfully the local RPGA players here (mainly old LG players) don't tend to use the online character tracker, so I just try to ignore the discrepancies and keep my paperwork accurate.

As this thread has taken a turn as to the purpose of the online character tracker, I thought I'd chime in on that. I always figured the purpose of both online character tracking and paper character tracking is redundancy.

I write the following information on my paper cert for a mod for my own record-keeping purposes:

  • XP gained/lost
  • GP gained/lost
  • Bundle chosen (even if simply "extra gold")
  • DM
  • Players/characters/races
  • The Nth adventure this character has played (helpful when determining what magic items I chose at what levels)

Sadly, we're only - what, 7 months? - into this campaign, and I've already lost a cert. While I've lost all my detailed records for that mod, I can at least go back to the online character tracker (when it's accurate, mind you) and get the basic information I need from that mod, including which specific story objects I chose on that cert (if a choice had to be made, such as for the DALE1-1 cert).

Just a reason why two methods of tracking are helpful.

Cheers---
Lisa Ann
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