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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:34AM
#11
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Date Joined:
Jul 13, 2008
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Class: Any, but cleric or Paladin
MC into a cleric and picking up a Divine Feat.
Class: Fighter
'Triggering' the combat challange twice during the same round.
Class: Paladin
Creature 'marked' by Paladin is killed by Paladin. So as a minor action to end the Paladin's round he 'marks' another creature that is not adjacent or attacked by the paladin.
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:38AM
#12
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Date Joined:
Jul 13, 2008
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Rules question here - dkay807Multiple PCs provoking OAs in order to trigger their own Immediate or Opportunity actions on their own turn.
Some of these I thought are legal if the OAs 'trigger' the powers 'triggered' keyword.
Stuff like 'you are hit', 'you are attacked', 'ally is attacked' etc.
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:40AM
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Rules question here -
dkay807
Some of these I thought are legal if the OAs 'trigger' the powers 'triggered' keyword.
Stuff like 'you are hit', 'you are attacked', 'ally is attacked' etc.
It doesn't matter what the trigger is. The bottom line is that you may not take an Opportunity Action on your own turn. An Opportunity Attack counts as an Opportunity Action...
PHB 268 (emphasis my own):
OPPORTUNITY ACTION
✦ Trigger: Opportunity actions allow you to take an
action in response to an enemy letting its guard
down. The one type of opportunity action that every
combatant can take is an opportunity attack (page
290). Opportunity attacks are triggered by an enemy
leaving a square adjacent to you or by an adjacent
enemy making a ranged attack or an area attack.
✦ Once per Combatant’s Turn: You can take no
more than one opportunity action on each other
combatant’s turn. You can’t take an opportunity
action on your own turn.
✦ Interrupts Action: An opportunity action interrupts
the action that triggered it.
Dave Kay
LFR Writing Director Retiree
dkay807 [at] yahoo [dot] com
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:50AM
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It doesn't matter what the trigger is. The bottom line is that you may not take an Opportunity Action on your own turn. An Opportunity Attack counts as an Opportunity Action...
I agree about OAs. What I have seen, and confused about is the other -
Multiple PCs provoking OAs in order to trigger their own Immediate or Opportunity actions on their own turn.
Immediate actions I'm quoting you on. Some powers have a 'triggered' keyword about your character being hit or attacked. It's these powers I'm wondering about.
PS. Wish I could give example but no books with me.
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:52AM
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Stuff I've seen:
1. Rolling damage for sneak/quarry on a crit (although this may be a rules ambiguity).
2. Forgetting to roll a die per enhancement bonus on a crit.
3. Burst vs Blast.
4. Close doesn't provoke, Area does.
5. Probably more I'm forgetting because I was gaming until 2:30 AM yesterday.
John du Bois
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:53AM
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May 11, 2005
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One which I find a lot of people do not realize (or flat out deny):
If a power lets you slide, pull, or push an opponent, you can choose to slide, pull, or push less than the indicated number of squares, including 0 squares (i.e. not at all).
(PHB, rules on forced movement)
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:56AM
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Date Joined:
Aug 19, 2007
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Rangers waiting to hear the result of the triggering attack roll before using Disruptive Strike (something I used to be guilty of).
While I agree with the interpretation, I don't think that's clear cut. I'm looking for things where a player simply shouldn't be doing something period. I don't want this thread to potentially devolve into rules arguments.
Class: Paladin
Creature 'marked' by Paladin is killed by Paladin. So as a minor action to end the Paladin's round he 'marks' another creature that is not adjacent or attacked by the paladin.
That's actually legal. However, the Paladin will then lose the benefits of the Divine Challenge.
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:58AM
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Date Joined:
Aug 19, 2007
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Immediate actions I'm quoting you on. Some powers have a 'triggered' keyword about your character being hit or attacked. It's these powers I'm wondering about.
Triggered means it is a form of an immediate action. So, they don't work on an opportunity attack on your turn.
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 8:53AM
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Triggered means it is a form of an immediate action. So, they don't work on an opportunity attack on your turn.
Not necessarily...there are a number of triggered powers that are free actions specifically so they can be used on your own turn. Of course the point that you can't take immediate action on your own turn is still valid.
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 9:39AM
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Mar 29, 2001
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One thing I haven't seen yet but it's probably going to come up:
Bard:
Misdirected Mark allows an ally to Mark your target. This does NOT count as one of the special Mark types that some classes have, such as Combat Challenge or Divine Challenge. As such it only imposes the standard effects of a 'generic' Mark, namely a -2 to attacks against anyone but the person who placed the Mark.
Confirmed by CS via e-mail, for what it's worth.
-karma
plays a bard
LFR Characters:
Lady Tiana Elinden Kobori Silverwane - Drow Control Wizard
Kro'tak Warscream - Orc Bard
Fulcrum of Gond - Warforged Laser Cleric
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