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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:03AM
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This is intended to be a list of things people have seen characters do that are flat out wrong without any gray areas. Feel free to post additional items and I'll edit the following posts appropriately. List of Resources:D&D Updates - what used to be known as Errata is now known as Updates. RPGA Downloads - while all useful, this is especially for where the newest Character Creation Guide is.
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:04AM
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Cleric
Healing Word may only be used once per round. PHB Page 62.
Fighter
Combat Challenge does not stop movement because it does not generate an opportunity attack. If someone shifts away from you and charges in a way that does not provoke an opportunity attack, you get a melee basic attack as an immediate interrupt which is not an OA. PHB Page 76. Also, that melee basic attack from Combat Challenge is an immediate action - you may only take one per round. Fighter automatically marks opponents by attacking them.
Paladin
You must have attacked or be next to your Divine Challenge Mark at the end of the round, or your Divine Challenge goes away. Marked is a condition separate from Divine Challenge - you only do Divine Challenge damage when you've Marked them via Divine Challenge, not other methods.
Ranger
Quarry is nearest target. You may only Quarry 1/round and not in the middle of another action.
Rogue
The following conditions cause Combat Advantage: Blinded, Dazed, Dominated, Helpless, Prone(melee only), Restrained, Stunned, and Surprised. Immobilized and Slowed do not. PHB 277
Warlock
Can only Curse the nearest target and cannot Curse a target already cursed. PHB 131. Yes, this sometimes presents problems when two warlocks are in the same party.
Warlord
Inspiring Word can only be used once a round. PHB 145.
Wizard
Artificer
Swordmage
Marked is a condition separate from Swordmage Aegis - Swordmage Aegis only activates when you've Marked them via Swordmage Aegis, not other methods.
Barbarian
Bard
Druid
Not yet legal. Was not compiled.
Invoker
Not yet legal. Was not compiled.
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:04AM
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Immediate Actions cannot be taken during your turn. PHB 268. As an example, if you have a power that triggers when you are attacked, it can't go off by you moving in such a way to take an opportunity attack. Also, you can only take one of them per round.
Opportunity Actions from being adjacent are not typically provoked by Close or Melee attacks, only Ranged or Area powers.
Forced Movement powers such as Slides, Pushes, etc...do not require you to move the target the full distance or at all. PHB 285.
Hard Corners usually require 2 spaces of movement to go around. See example on PHB 283.
Shift and Standing from Prone are both Move Actions.
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:05AM
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Aug 19, 2007
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Action Surge only affects the action you gained by spending the action point, not the other actions on your turn. PHB 193.
Channel Divinity Feats require the ability to Channel Divinity, which is a class feature unique to Paladins, Clerics, and Invokers. Multiclassing into one of those classes does not grant that ability.
Conjured Creatures cannot flank. They do not gain opportunity attacks(AV 180) and if you are prevented from taking opportunity actions, you don't flank(PHB 285). Beast Companions are not Conjured Creatures(MP 39)
Minotaur Characters do not gain the Oversized ability from Monster Manual. They gain something called Heedless Charge instead. Dragon 367, page 6.
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:14AM
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Deliberate rules breaking or just people making mistakes cos they didn't understand?
Cos your thread title says one thing but you actual post implies another.
People using their Constitution Modifier instead of their full score for starting hit points is one mistake I've seen a few times.
-karma
LFR Characters:
Lady Tiana Elinden Kobori Silverwane - Drow Control Wizard
Kro'tak Warscream - Orc Bard
Fulcrum of Gond - Warforged Laser Cleric
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:20AM
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Jul 16, 2002
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Almost anything regarding DME. :D
Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials. So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy. Can we just get back to real 4e? Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki. 1. Wizards fight dirty. They hit their enemies in the NADs. -- Dragon9 2. A barbarian hits people with his axe. A warlord hits people with his barbarian. 3. Boo-freakin'-hoo, ya light-slingin' finger-wigglers. -- MrCelcius in response to the Cleric's Healer's Lore nerf
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:23AM
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Deliberate rules breaking or just people making mistakes cos they didn't understand?
Cos your thread title says one thing but you actual post implies another.
People using their Constitution Modifier instead of their full score for starting hit points is one mistake I've seen a few times.
These are just things I've seen. But hopefully after this thread, it will make it less likely that either will happen. I'm more looking for things that people do as actions rather than build mistakes. The constitution thing should be easily fixed by any observant player. "You got hit by a minion and you're already bloodied? What?"
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:27AM
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May 19, 2004
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Player makes opportunity attack or uses immediate action on that player's turn.
Player trying to quarry or mark (paladin mark) in the middle of a charge.
Player taking an action (without an action point) after a charge.
Shift/walk past a hard corner (this may be the biggest 3e holdover rule that everyone seems to get wrong).
Trying to shift as a minor action.
Trying to stand from prone as a minor action.
-SYB
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:30AM
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Date Joined:
Mar 29, 2001
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Fighter
Combat Challenge does not stop movement. If someone shifts away from you and charges in a way that does not provoke an opportunity attack, you get a melee basic attack as an immediate interrupt, but you do not stop movement. PHB Page 76.
More specifically, Combat Challenge is NOT an opportunity attack, which is WHY it does not trigger Combat Superiority.
-karma
LFR Characters:
Lady Tiana Elinden Kobori Silverwane - Drow Control Wizard
Kro'tak Warscream - Orc Bard
Fulcrum of Gond - Warforged Laser Cleric
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4 years ago ::
Jan 19, 2009 - 7:32AM
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Warlocks cursing targets more than once per round.
Rangers designating targets in between twin strike attacks rather than prior to making attack rolls (i.e. "I use twin strike. I hit this guy first. Does he drop? If so, I hit this other guy").
Rangers waiting to hear the result of the triggering attack roll before using Disruptive Strike (something I used to be guilty of).
Multiple PCs provoking OAs in order to trigger their own Immediate or Opportunity actions on their own turn.
Swordmages utilizing Aegis Immediate actions from outside of 10 squares.
Dave Kay
LFR Writing Director Retiree
dkay807 [at] yahoo [dot] com
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