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mvincent wrote:

For clarity: why couldn't one sell a pair of lvl. 14 goggles?

Newest CCG prohibits selling items abover your level.

Dragon9 wrote:

So now the new question will be... does that apply to rituals?

I would believe so:

Player's Handbook page 298]When you create a ritual book or copy a ritual into an existing book, you don't just write a series of words on each page wrote:

When you create a ritual book or copy a ritual into an existing book, you don't just write a series of words on each page; you bind some of the ritual's magic into the book.

Bold is mine. Nothing is mentioned on ritual scrolls, but the magic has to be even more a part of them, since they can be used by non-ritual casters, who cannot provide any of the magic themselves...

So, that means you would have to be 4th level to be able to sell a Raise Dead ritual scroll. Oh, well.

Dragon9 wrote:

So now the new question will be... does that apply to rituals?

Based on the language throughout the Treasure and Rewards section of the CCG, I'd say no. Repeatedly through that entire section, the term "magic item" is used in opposition to or distinct from rituals. Examples:

• First paragraph: "You can also buy magic items or rituals..."
  
• First bullet: "You can select one magic item or ritual bundle..."
  
• Second bullet: Refers to found magic items throughout, then says that many contain options to pick consumables plus gold or rituals.
  
• Fifth bullet: This rule goes out of its way to make sure that it applies to rituals and formulas, which leads me to believe it wouldn't if they weren't listed there.
  
• Sixth bullet (the red one in v1.8): Magic items can be sold for 20%. Rituals can be sold for 50%.

Keithric wrote:

This is completely wrong. Any power that says it removes the appropriate condition removes the appropriate condition.

Powers that remove conditions have nothing to do with this. That statement was made in response to people saying that even if it says "until the end of their/your next turn" that target can simply use the Stand Up action to negate it. Which is wrong.

The prone condition (PHB p277) makes no mention of this requirement.

Sigh... round and round we go. I made a post on this earlier. Saying the Prone condition makes no mention of it is a poor argument. None of the conditions make mention of anythin in that regard. if we are to accept that the Prone condition makes no mention of having to use the Stand Up action to get up, then we also have to accept that non of the other conditions have any provisions int hem for durations. That would make every power in every book that imposes a condition wrong.

The 'Stand Up' action says "If you’ve been knocked prone, you need to take a move action to get back on your feet.", and it does indeed require a move action. However, that's a factor of Stand Up - as evidenced by Acrobat Boots: "Minor Action. Stand Up from prone." which already disproves that you "need a move action".

Once again: Acrobat Boots are an exception to the general rule. It doesn't disprove anything except rule of Specific Beats General works. It's like arguing that the Draw/Sheathe a Weapon as a minor action rule is invalid and doesn't count because of Quick Draw (which changes it for your character to a free action).

General Rule: You have to use a move action to stand.
Specific Rule: Acrobat Boots let you stand as a minor action.

General Rule: If you are prone, you can use a Stand Up action to get up
Specific Rule: ...until the end of your next turn, ...until the end of their next turn, (save ends) keeps you prone until the end of the duration.

There is no specific rule in the books to negate the need for a Stand Up action to get up from prone (i.e. no magically appearing on your feet after the duration)

If prone has a duration (and you can usually avoid it having one), then it must end when the duration expires. There is no way to avoid that by the RAW.

I refer you back to "Stand Up."

p278 Durations: "Until the End of Your Next Turn: The effect ends
when your next turn ends."
So p277 Prone: "You’re lying on the ground." has to end.

Again, there is nothing to negate the RAW of Stand Up.

Take this condition as another example: Unconscious. In it, it says you fall prone. So, let's say you failed two saves against sleep and fell unconscious (save ends). When you make your save, do you magically appear on your feet? Or do you have to stand up? You're prone.

I have never seen anyone run sleep that way. So why would Sleep be run differently than knocked prone until the end of their next turn/save ends/etc.?

If the immobilized condition ends, then you can move. If the dazed condition ends, you can flank. There's no way to get around this - either you interpret Chasm as prone also goes away on its own in a turn (which seems like an unnecessary nerf to me) or that prone is instantaneous and you can stand up like normal. Unfortunately there's no help for Cheetah's Rake by RAW... it just goes away on its own

This absolutely amazes me... See above. How do you resolve unconscious? Does everyone who drops to or below 0 hp in your game (falling unconscious) and then get healed magically appear on their feet since, by this logic, the unconscious condition is gone so they should no longer be prone?

I sent an email to CS just for S&Gs, but I got the "Unfortunately this question doesn't have an official answr and will be passed on..." :P