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As of August 8th, 2009, here's the current list of Classes and Races available for RPGA campaigns (including Living Forgotten Realms). Choices are listed as the Option followed by the source in parenthesis, and in alphabetical order.Please do not co
[SIZE="4"]Paragon Path by Class[/SIZE][SIZE="2"]August 10, 2009[/SIZE]Sources[LIST][*]AP Arcane Power[*]DP Divine Power[*]EPG Eberron Player Guide (only partially included)[*]FRPG Forgotten Realms Player Guide[*]MP Martial Power[*]MotP Manual of the
Today's (17 November) lists Wilden as new ``Debut material from Player's Handbook 3''.
The RPGACCG v1.9 lists ``D&D Insider Character Buidler Debut content'' as all/when available.
I believe that this makes Wilden legal in LFR, as of today. Comments?
Today's (17 November) lists Wilden as new ``Debut material from Player's Handbook 3''.The RPGACCG v1.9 lists ``D&D Insider Character Buidler Debut content'' as all/when available.I believe that this makes Wilden legal in LFR, as of today. Comments?
Oddly enough, the Dragonborn book is not yet legal. It isn't in the list of books allowed by the RPGA Character Creation Guidelines v.1.9. You can bet that it's in v.2.0, which is supposed to appear ``any second now'', but won't go into effect until 1 Feb 2010 (after DDXP).
On the other side of the fence, the Character Builder Debut Content version of Hybrid characters *is* in the current version of the document, and it goes legal when published, so Hybrid characters using the most recent rules (i.e. the version as of last week) *are* legal in LFR now.
Oddly enough, the Dragonborn book is not yet legal. It isn't in the list of books allowed by the RPGA Character Creation Guidelines v.1.9. You can bet that it's in v.2.0, which is supposed to appear ``any second now'', but won't go into effect un
The Hybrid Talent feat is not printed in the debut article.
Thankfully, the current CCG for LFR states that debut material is legal as soon as it's available and the character builder is a valid rules source. So, since it's available in the character builder, it *is* legal, even though it's not in the article.
Nice catch though. I didn't notice the lack of the Hybrid Talent feat the first time I read through the article.
Ah ha! That kind of sucks. The Hybrid Talent feat is not printed in the debut article.Thankfully, the current CCG for LFR states that debut material is legal as soon as it's available and the character builder is a valid rules source. So, since
So I was recently told that the Drow House Insignia's from the P2 adventure are LFR legal, but the other H and P module items are not - is there a reason for this?
Thanks!
So I was recently told that the Drow House Insignia's from the P2 adventure are LFR legal, but the other H and P module items are not - is there a reason for this? Thanks!
The reason is ``someone lied to you''. `P2 Demon Queen Enclave' is not a legal source for items.
Of course, the items could be put directly into an adventure (which they were), and then you get take them from the adventure, but you can't just buy them, or upgrade them, or do anything but `take them in that adventure' or `sell them for 20%', at the moment.
I hope that helps.
The reason is ``someone lied to you''. `P2 Demon Queen Enclave' is not a legal source for items.Of course, the items could be put directly into an adventure (which they were), and then you get take them from the adventure, but you can't just buy th
So a previously illegal item was put in an adventure?
Is that common?
Is there a particular reason why it was considered 'acceptable' but the other items were not?
Seems a bit odd to say the least.
So a previously illegal item was put in an adventure? Is that common? Is there a particular reason why it was considered 'acceptable' but the other items were not? Seems a bit odd to say the least.
Module authors are not bound by the same content restrictions as players are.
But it is funny when the Character Builder says your character is no longer LFR legal because you ran a published LFR adventure and took a bundle from it.
But it is funny when the Character Builder says your character is no longer LFR legal because you ran a published LFR adventure and took a bundle from it.
Not to decry the efforts of Mike Donais, but the Character Builder's idea of `LFR Legal' is waaay more of a guideline than a rule.
To the best of my knowledge (about to get on a plane; can't easily check my records) LFR has approved 3 `nonstandard' items, all simply being things that are outside of the materials any PC could buy in a store. Compared to previous Living Campaigns, this is essentially zero. Why can they do it? Because the items that authors want to include are reviewed by (at least) a regional admin and at least two parts of Wizards of the Coast R&D (a `story' pass and a `crunch' pass).
Not to decry the efforts of Mike Donais, but the Character Builder's idea of `LFR Legal' is waaay more of a guideline than a rule.To the best of my knowledge (about to get on a plane; can't easily check my records) LFR has approved 3 `nonstandard' it
OK, I still haven't seen an answer to this question: what backgrounds are LFR legal? The character builder (with the LFR campaign file selected) shows the Scales of War backgrounds as being legal choices. Is this the case?
OK, I still haven't seen an answer to this question: what backgrounds are LFR legal? The character builder (with the LFR campaign file selected) shows the Scales of War backgrounds as being legal choices. Is this the case?
You'll want to look at the RPGA Character Creation Guidelines (current version v.1.95) to determine what is and isn't a legal LFR character (rather than, for example, just trying things in the Character Builder until it says that you're houseruled). In this case, the CCG says this:
Select a character background. You may choose a character background benefit from any player resource. You may gain a background benefit from your character region (if the region has a benefit listed in the Forgotten Realms Player's Guide) or one based on your race, occupation or other background (as listed in Player's Handbook 2 and other sources). However, you only gain the mechanical benefit of one background, not from both your region and another source.
This is the second bullet point under `Special Character Creation Rules', which tells you how the LFR rules differ from the generic RPGA rules. It's on page 7 of the CCG, left column, the first bullet point on the page. It'll probably be in red text because it was changed in the most recent version.
The `from any player resource' part says, basically, ``look at the player resources list for general RPGA characters'' -- there's a section titled exactly that. Right now, that means that published books, Dungeon, and Dragon articles are all available for backgrounds, *except* that the spellscarred backgrounds from the Forgotten Realms Player's Guide and the dragonmarked backgrounds from the Eberron Player's Guide are legal player background choices in LFR. The `multiple choices' bit means that you can choose, for example, to be a Nomadic Desert Soldier from Thay, and choose the background benefit of Born Under a Bad Sign. In other words, choose whatever backgrounds you think fir your character, but you only get the mechanical benefit from *one* background. This is, conveniently enough, how the Character Builder works -- you can choose lots of backgrounds, but you also choose a single `Regional Benefit' (by default, it chooses the benefit of your first choice).
I hope this helps.
what backgrounds are LFR legal?You'll want to look at the RPGA Character Creation Guidelines (current version v.1.95) to determine what is and isn't a legal LFR character (rather than, for example, just trying things in the Character Builder until it
The `from any player resource' part says, basically, ``look at the player resources list for general RPGA characters'' -- there's a section titled exactly that. Right now, that means that published books, Dungeon, and Dragon articles are all available for backgrounds...
Point of information -- Dungeon Magazine is not a legal player resource. However, the article with the Scales of War backgrounds in it is in Dungeon #366, so Scales of War backgrounds are legal nonetheless.
Point of information -- Dungeon Magazine is not a legal player resource. However, the article with the Scales of War backgrounds in it is in Dungeon #366, so Scales of War backgrounds are legal nonetheless.
As far as I can tell, Dragonshard items from Ebberon PG are legal since the CCG says "All except Dragonmarked rules, faiths and backgrounds" for what is legal from the Ebberon book.
EDIT: So, who is supposed to be maintaining the Wiki page? Cause it's over a year without being updated. None of the Psionic classes are listed.
As far as I can tell, Dragonshard items from Ebberon PG are legal since the CCG says "All except Dragonmarked rules, faiths and backgrounds" for what is legal from the Ebberon book.EDIT: So, who is supposed to be maintaining the Wiki page? Cause it
The reason is ``someone lied to you''. `P2 Demon Queen Enclave' is not a legal source for items.
Of course, the items could be put directly into an adventure (which they were), and then you get take them from the adventure, but you can't just buy them, or upgrade them, or do anything but `take them in that adventure' or `sell them for 20%', at the moment.
I hope that helps.
NOTE: I was wrong about the `upgrade them' part -- the current CCG does allow you to upgrade items that you Found Item even if they're not from legal player resources. You still cannot buy them, craft them, etc.
NOTE2: It might currently be legal (but certainly is unintended if so) to upgrade boons at the moment, under this same rule.
NOTE: I was wrong about the `upgrade them' part -- the current CCG does allow you to upgrade items that you Found Item even if they're not from legal player resources. You still cannot buy them, craft them, etc.NOTE2: It might currently be legal (b
I just got a question about blackguards, It ses on the Vice of domination that you can worship a evil or unalined god to make the ends justifi the means. would that mean i could make a charicter that could worship shar and still be LFR legal?
I just got a question about blackguards, It ses on the Vice of domination that you can worship a evil or unalined god to make the ends justifi the means. would that mean i could make a charicter that could worship shar and still be LFR legal?
would that mean i could make a charicter that could worship shar and still be LFR legal?
No. LFR characters cannot worship evil deities. As noted on page 3 of the LFR Campaign Guide (which you can download here):
Characters must be unaligned, good, or lawful good. In addition, LFR characters may not worship any deity or exarch with an alignment of evil or chaotic evil. {bolding mine}
Also, just FYI, this is an old, "legacy" message board, left over from the time before WotC rebuilt their message boards as the "WotC Community" about two years ago. When that happened, they gave LFR its own group within the Community, and its own set of message boards. This board now sees very little traffic (as the VCL for the RPGA, I stop back in here every couple of days to see if someone stumbles in here by mistake).
The new LFR group is administered by the LFR campaign staff, and the staff regularly visits those boards and answers questions.
Note that you may need to applly for membership in the LFR group in order to post on the boards there.
Hope this helps!
Mike
No. LFR characters cannot worship evil deities. As noted on page 3 of the LFR Campaign Guide (which you can download here):Also, just FYI, this is an old, "legacy" message board, left over from the time before WotC rebuilt their message boards as t
