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5 years ago ::
Nov 03, 2008 - 10:00AM
#11
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- Senior Volunteer Community Lead
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Personally, I figure the last straw with open access to Dragon will be in about a year or so. The Eberron stuff will have been released and WotC will be gearing up for next campaign setting relaunch: Dragonlance. In order to get all the fans excited, they will release a playable preview of everyone's favorite race, Kender.
Just picture attending your next LFR event and sitting down at the table, only to find that every other player is a Kender. Oh, you know it will happen.
Just like every other player is now a drow? Oh, I mean a gnoll, err warforged?
I understand that not everyone is a fan of more options. But just because there are more/new options doesn't mean that EVERYONE will be taking them except for staunch "core-only" diehards.
Even if everyone but the die-hards choose non-core races, guess what? By virtue of having so many things to choose from - they STILL won't all be the same race.
So no, we don't "know it will happen".
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5 years ago ::
Nov 03, 2008 - 10:01AM
#12
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- Senior Volunteer Community Lead
- Dragon Slayer
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"Play a minotaur if you want to be a member of a race that favors the barbarian, fighter, and warden classes."
Warden? Did we know about this from somewhere or is it new?
Sounds like a Primal class to me. Looks like you've spotted one of the upcoming PHBII classes. 
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5 years ago ::
Nov 03, 2008 - 10:04AM
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They're perfect. Thank goodness the WotC design team did what they did. This move certainly increases my level of trust in them.
Same here. I think the new minotaur race is great as written for PC use.
And, this is the funniest reference I've seen on the boards in a long, long time:
Minotaurs need more cowbell.
Shaz'ran the Minotaur: "I gotta have more cowbell!"
-------- Don (Greyson) --------
Non-smoker, White, Non-golfer, U.S. American
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5 years ago ::
Nov 03, 2008 - 10:24AM
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Minotaur[s]en need moar cowbell.
Fixed that for you.
... Okay, lemme just say this right here.
The Dragon Coast has a MASSIVE history of being completely multicultural. A rough quote from the v3.5 version of the area said something like, "You can see a dragon squeeze itself into a local shop and an illithid merchant freely hawking his wares on the street." The Dragon Coast was (and probably still is) an area where a minotaur[s]en, gnoll or orc would just be considered *plain*.
That said... there will be racism with "non-core" races. Hell, even with core races if you bring your dwarf to an elven settlement, expect a bunch of short jokes. If you bring your halfling to a human city, expect people to clutch their coin purses. This is just the way of things.
But I don't think even gnolls or minotaur[s]en have a "Kill On Sight" anywhere in the Realms. Particularly in the post-spellplague madness, where everything can be everything and just because something looks like you doesn't mean it's friendly- and just because something looks alien to you doesn't mean it's gunna hurt you.
In short, if every single monster race was made available for LFR, it would only improve the game for me. Most people are going to play the core races anyway- and I personally delight in playing non-humanoids as much as I can. Races like the Thri'Kreen (for the hivemind!), Minotaur[s]en, kobolds, warforged, ss'ressen, aquatic elves... I love 'em all (Oddly enough, not overly fond of drow).
In short- bring on the freakfest, baby!
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5 years ago ::
Nov 03, 2008 - 10:25AM
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Minotaurs need more cowbell.
Wouldnt that be their Holy Symbol ?
And do the Minotaur Paladins use a Holy Avenger Cattle Prod?
"The Minotaur paladin charges forward, his +1 Cattle Prod Holy Avenger sparking visciously, his battle cry of "Eat moor Chiken" resounding thru the dungeon"
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5 years ago ::
Nov 03, 2008 - 10:36AM
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Wouldnt that be their Holy Symbol ?
And do the Minotaur Paladins use a Holy Avenger Cattle Prod?
"The Minotaur paladin charges forward, his +1 Cattle Prod Holy Avenger sparking visciously, his battle cry of "Eat moor Chiken" resounding thru the dungeon"
Although I think for Minotaur Barbarians the standard "MOOOOOOOOO!" works just fine.
Can you tell I really like minotaurs?
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5 years ago ::
Nov 03, 2008 - 10:46AM
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And what's worse, now with the new, small-handed Minotaur we have TWO monstrous, furry races with the same stat adjustments that are both great at charging around.
No, Gnolls are +2 Dex & Con. Minotaurs are +2 Str & Con.
Not the same stat adjustments at all.
Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials. So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy. Can we just get back to real 4e? Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki. 1. Wizards fight dirty. They hit their enemies in the NADs. -- Dragon9 2. A barbarian hits people with his axe. A warlord hits people with his barbarian. 3. Boo-freakin'-hoo, ya light-slingin' finger-wigglers. -- MrCelcius in response to the Cleric's Healer's Lore nerf
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5 years ago ::
Nov 03, 2008 - 12:04PM
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Just picture attending your next LFR event and sitting down at the table, only to find that every other player is a Kender. Oh, you know it will happen.
The good thing about Kenders as a PC race is that it outs the people who would play them. It's a good thing to know who those people are.
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5 years ago ::
Nov 03, 2008 - 1:43PM
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Minotaurs need more cowbell.
Minotaur bards?
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5 years ago ::
Nov 03, 2008 - 4:36PM
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Minotaur bards?
Ha ha ha ha Don't Fear The "Reaper" Minotaur Bard Mini
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