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5 years ago ::
Sep 20, 2008 - 3:19AM
#121
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House Godeep is always looking for a few good members.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 20, 2008 - 4:16AM
#122
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Out of curiosity, is House Huruafir from a canon FR source? Or made up so there's some rationale for drow to be working with surface-dwelling folk? House Huruafair is of my own design, based on the information I have on (pre-Plague) Dambrath. It was originally background for my own PC (who is a half-elf, not a drow). I made it more open so that others could join as it gives a good rationale on why, say, dwarves would put trust in a drow PC, with the added advantage that it is located in East Rift, which grants deepspeech. Plus, I liked the idea of having fellow PCs being family, and a family whose racial borders are a bit vague. (I played with the idea of having dwarves join the family, but I figured that would make it a bit too silly)
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5 years ago ::
Sep 20, 2008 - 12:36PM
#123
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House Godeep is always looking for a few good members. Do we have to do a flag or a post route?
Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials. So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy. Can we just get back to real 4e? Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki. 1. Wizards fight dirty. They hit their enemies in the NADs. -- Dragon9 2. A barbarian hits people with his axe. A warlord hits people with his barbarian. 3. Boo-freakin'-hoo, ya light-slingin' finger-wigglers. -- MrCelcius in response to the Cleric's Healer's Lore nerf
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5 years ago ::
Sep 20, 2008 - 2:06PM
#124
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Oct 20, 2007
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Do we have to do a flag or a post route?  Membership Requirement: Anyone not named Chad Pennington... :P
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5 years ago ::
Sep 20, 2008 - 2:14PM
#125
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Date Joined:
Oct 26, 2007
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Of course we've got a flag! The adventurer's vault book is out after all.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 24, 2008 - 6:57PM
#126
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Date Joined:
Aug 22, 2007
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My .02... For what it's worth I agree in spirit with the original poster; but it's really more of an "official" question. Here's how it works... 1) New players go to the website and they download the character creation guidelines. 2) Said guidelines dictate the usable and official sources for generating characters. Nowhere does it say anything about other documents, messageboards, etc. 3) The administrator of the program says he's going to make changes - he's nice enough to post the changes he's going to make. Most people follow them... Now here's the kicker; you can't enforce them. I'm sure Mr. Tulach will incorporate this information into the next update which is listed as December 5th. He may even do a hurried posting if he considers it necessary; but I don't believe he can enforce rules that do not follow his own structure for how to create and post rules. This is how it works for all the real world examples folks have brought up; in the case of speeding laws in the US there is a default speed limit for most roads (as well as default reckless laws and such); if it is changed to a different limit that change must be posted, etc... If 90% of the folks choose to follow this limit that's great - the 10% who do not are not liable for any crime as no crime currently exists. In an area I lived they did just that; they moved a school thus moving a school zone - the speed limit slows but until such time as the area is posted as a school zone in an official manner the mandatory speed limit could not be enforced. You cannot legally change the rules of a competition or an organization without going through proper channels otherwise could you really use the word "organization"?  I'm sure Mr. Tulach would agree that he should follow the rules and he should post all of the rules in a clear way.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 24, 2008 - 8:09PM
#127
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Date Joined:
Jul 16, 2002
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Except Chris Tulach is the proper channel.
Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials. So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy. Can we just get back to real 4e? Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki. 1. Wizards fight dirty. They hit their enemies in the NADs. -- Dragon9 2. A barbarian hits people with his axe. A warlord hits people with his barbarian. 3. Boo-freakin'-hoo, ya light-slingin' finger-wigglers. -- MrCelcius in response to the Cleric's Healer's Lore nerf
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5 years ago ::
Sep 25, 2008 - 12:24AM
#128
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Date Joined:
Apr 13, 2005
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Besides, if your GM, or the Senior GM, believes that you need to follow the rules in the Characters in the Realms document, then you need to follow those rules.
At an event, there is no higher authority than the Senior GM, and most will understand the mechanisms of RPGA rules issuing which by convention do require at least some attention to be paid to the message-board posts of campaign staff. Discussion of what's 'official' is somewhat moot, as the final say lies with the Senior GM.
Senior GMs who act in entirely inappropriate manners can be reported to the RPGA after the event, but requiring a player to comply with rules which are clearly intended to be part of the LFR set up is not going to raise any eye-brows at RPGA HQ!
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5 years ago ::
Sep 25, 2008 - 4:55AM
#129
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Date Joined:
Aug 22, 2007
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Except Chris Tulach is the proper channel.  But that's just it; he isn't. The channel is the method not a person. In the States the President isn't the channel for our laws; he's an enforcing arm; so to with our Congress, they draft the laws but they are not the channel. The channel is that set of books on every lawyer's shelf - as new laws are made it gets updated. For us, it's the character creation document and those things it refers to... Which get updated...
Chris Tulach is important, don't get me wrong, but he has to obey the rules the same as us. Many people have good reasons for why a Lolth-worshipping PC anything won't work; I've got a few of my own as well - but the OP was asking for someone to point to an official source; something he could have seen without having to track down every post and every website around (yes I know it's easy to find this other document but the beauty of this game and the RPGA was that you didn't have to). And there is the point - it doesn't exist; the alternate documentation is not referred to in the high-level documentation and is therefore not required for play.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 25, 2008 - 5:10AM
#130
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Date Joined:
Aug 22, 2007
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Besides, if your GM, or the Senior GM, believes that you need to follow the rules in the Characters in the Realms document, then you need to follow those rules.
At an event, there is no higher authority than the Senior GM, and most will understand the mechanisms of RPGA rules issuing which by convention do require at least some attention to be paid to the message-board posts of campaign staff. Discussion of what's 'official' is somewhat moot, as the final say lies with the Senior GM.
Senior GMs who act in entirely inappropriate manners can be reported to the RPGA after the event, but requiring a player to comply with rules which are clearly intended to be part of the LFR set up is not going to raise any eye-brows at RPGA HQ! Exactly but that's the problem with everyone who is saying the OP is wrong. His senior DM did make a ruling and because an unofficial document disagrees (yes it comes from someone important and yes it may soon be official) the masses are breaking out the stones.
Also the final "say" doesn't lie with the Senior DM; I believe that it is a hierarchy of rules and regulations. We have a high-level document, the CCG, that must be followed. Beneath that anything not covered or left open to interpretation is the purvue of the senior DM at an event. Anything he fails to cover is then the purvue of the table DM, etc...
So, if I come to a gaming table, my PC will follow the CCG completely. If the Senior DM tells me I have to follow something else as well, that's fine as long as he has a copy and he allows me to make the necessary changes AND, most importantly, it doesn't violate anything laid out in the CCG. If the Table DM wants something on top of that, well I'd think the same rules apply.
This is how it works at poker tournaments, bridge tournaments, etc... Why not here?
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