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5 years ago ::
Aug 21, 2008 - 10:51AM
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Sep 23, 2003
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'Cause it's not Elistraee any more...
And that also begs the question - are PC drow (as per the LFPG preview allowed in LFR) actually still Drow, or are they now Corellon's "dark elves", as per canon events?
Any idea? Any information?
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5 years ago ::
Aug 21, 2008 - 11:24AM
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Aug 17, 2007
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there are no "racial" gods anymore, for example Moradin is not the god of dwarves, he is the god of craft.
so the simple answer is you follow whatever god suits your character, if you were intent on following Elistraee, perhaps an incarnation of Sune might be appropriate.
and i think the drow /Corellon's dark elves difference might be more distinct in the players guide next month
--Josh Elliott
-Just a nobody
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5 years ago ::
Aug 21, 2008 - 11:35AM
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Oct 26, 2004
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The FRCG states that Lloth presides over the drow and demands fealty from them and that she takes "Vengeful notice" of any drow that turns their back to her.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 21, 2008 - 2:33PM
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Jul 16, 2002
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In FR there are still racial Gods. Moradin still created the dwarves who revere him, Orcs still worship Gruumsh, Corellon is still head of the Seldarine (elvish pantheon). It's all in the FRCG.
Now there isn't anythign sayign that a Dwarf can't worship Tempus if he so desires. Or a Drow could worship Corellon. Nothign stopping that.
Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials. So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy. Can we just get back to real 4e? Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki. 1. Wizards fight dirty. They hit their enemies in the NADs. -- Dragon9 2. A barbarian hits people with his axe. A warlord hits people with his barbarian. 3. Boo-freakin'-hoo, ya light-slingin' finger-wigglers. -- MrCelcius in response to the Cleric's Healer's Lore nerf
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5 years ago ::
Aug 21, 2008 - 3:29PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 21, 2007
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The Drow as a race worship Lolth. Lolth was pretty bloodthirsty about eliminating the competition. She does not share well. No, I don't know what happened to the former few good NPC Drow.
Drow PC worship whomever the player likes (LFR and alignment restrictions still apply).
What the 4E FRCG did was remove any racial designation in the book for the deities which used to exist. So there is not a separate elven, dwarven, halfling, gnomish, etc., etc., pantheon. Are they really blended, or just not highlighted?
For instance, in 4E there is nothing that says Dwarves must worship a dwarven god, and only dwarves worship a dwarven god.
Keith
whose first LFR PC is a male dwarven paladin of Selune :D
Keith Hoffman
LFR Writing Director for Waterdeep
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5 years ago ::
Aug 21, 2008 - 5:44PM
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Jan 28, 2004
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Selune - an ally of Eilistraee since start, if I remember well - have similarities to the Dark Maiden and surely is popular with the better-hearted dark elves. I can see the clergy of Eilistraee turnign her en masses.
Maybe in a distant future, there will be 'cultural pantheons' with similarities to how Birthright treated the religions, I heard....
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5 years ago ::
Aug 21, 2008 - 7:29PM
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Oct 26, 2007
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We should probably just work on this on our own and make that a kind of generic default deity for Drow.
Selune works for me.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 21, 2008 - 8:18PM
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What the 4E FRCG did was remove any racial designation in the book for the deities which used to exist. So there is not a separate elven, dwarven, halfling, gnomish, etc., etc., pantheon. Are they really blended, or just not highlighted?
For instance, in 4E there is nothing that says Dwarves must worship a dwarven god, and only dwarves worship a dwarven god.
That doesn't mean a pantheon doesn't exist. The entries for Corellon and Moradin still mention the Seldarine and the Mordinsammen. There just aren't any racial restrictions anymore on who can worship what deity. That doesn't mean a pantheon doesn't exist anymore. The dwarven gods are still dwarven, the gnomish gods are still gnomes, the elven gods are still elves. All a pantheon is is a collection of Gods with a shared mythology.
And before anyoen tries to argue that it's all one mythology, each of the races still have their own creation myths about their Gods.
Sorry WOTC, you lost me with Essentials. So where I used to buy every book that came out, now I will be very choosy about what I buy. Can we just get back to real 4e? Check out the 4e Conversion Wiki. 1. Wizards fight dirty. They hit their enemies in the NADs. -- Dragon9 2. A barbarian hits people with his axe. A warlord hits people with his barbarian. 3. Boo-freakin'-hoo, ya light-slingin' finger-wigglers. -- MrCelcius in response to the Cleric's Healer's Lore nerf
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5 years ago ::
Aug 21, 2008 - 8:37PM
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-Dark Elves were retconned in AGHotR to be Green Elves. Thus, the Drow who reverted to their forms before The Descent become Green Elves once more. Statistically, they are 'Elves'.
There just aren't any racial restrictions anymore on who can worship what deity.
-There never were. There were Humans who worship the Seldarine, Gnomes who worshiped Gond (A Human deity), and so on and so on.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 22, 2008 - 3:31AM
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Mar 29, 2001
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Keith
whose first LFR PC is a male dwarven paladin of Selune :D
I'd point out that Selune specifically had Dwarves listed as worshipers in both 2nd and 3rd edition as well.
One of the few human deities to do so in print.
:D
-karma
who had a dwarven crusader (later paladin) of Selune in LC
LFR Characters:
Lady Tiana Elinden Kobori Silverwane - Drow Control Wizard
Kro'tak Warscream - Orc Bard
Fulcrum of Gond - Warforged Laser Cleric
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