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5 years ago ::
Apr 16, 2008 - 8:55AM
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Well, lets be honest here folks. What has been the Core Schedule for LG at every single GenCon, Winter Fantasy (now DDXP) and Origins? Hmmmm, CORX-01 in all slots, CORX-02 in all slots, CORX-03 in all slots and CORSX-01 in all slots. This was even extended to the D&D Campaign flavor of the year. Now Living Force did have a bit of a rotational schedule (usually Part 1 of story, Part 2 then Part 3, repeat the next day). The D&D Open (or Challenge or what have you) will have a slightly different set up, but you don't have to worry about Saturday's semi's or Sunday's finale unless you get past Thursday's or Friday's Qualifier. As far as getting in. The tickets will disappear within minutes of going up, whether it is on the 20 th of April or the 6 th of June. It will only suck if they go up on a week day that isn't Friday at a time that isn't close to closing (or close enough that your boss will miss you if you sneak out early). The chances of that sadly are high. Now imagine your rage if you are a judge in an area that will have 0 slot 0 opportunities, you know of the schedule weeks in advance because you signed up for judging before anything opened up AND you still don't get to play anything on top of eating the mod you are running in 7 slots. All this after Dave has gone through six increases in tables and GenCon still oversells the slot, with Dave scrambling like a mad man to drag in more judges and most of the judges gamely stepping up to get everyone, even generics, seated. Cause, folks we're all here to play and have fun but there are only so many of us who step up and judge to go around. And yes, I can speak to this because in 2006, I came home from Iraq. My wife took me to GenCon so I could play (and only play). I still ended up running something like three or four tables for Dave. Every other GenCon or Winter Fantasy/DDXP I've been able to attend has been solely to run. So I'll see you there this year. And I promise not to TPK you, much!
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5 years ago ::
Apr 17, 2008 - 11:14AM
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Oh look yet another day has passed and still nothing.
People (and companies) are defined by their actions.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 18, 2008 - 2:02PM
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According to a post on Gen Con's Forum the hold up is that Wizards is waiting on the chapter 11 outcome. When does Gen Con go to court to finish up the process?
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5 years ago ::
Apr 18, 2008 - 2:48PM
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According to a post on Gen Con's Forum the hold up is that Wizards is waiting on the chapter 11 outcome. When does Gen Con go to court to finish up the process? I saw that post, too...though I'd like to see some sort of official word on that before I put too much weight in it.
That said...legal matters are rarely quick, and, IIRC, GenCon LLC only filed for Chapter 11 a couple of months ago.
The cynic in me wonders if they moved up event registration in order to get some cash in their coffers a few weeks earlier.
"Of course [Richard] has a knife. He always has a knife. We all have knives. It's 1183, and we're barbarians!" - Eleanor of Aquitaine, "The Lion in Winter"
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5 years ago ::
Apr 19, 2008 - 3:47AM
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I saw that post, too...though I'd like to see some sort of official word on that before I put too much weight in it.
That said...legal matters are rarely quick, and, IIRC, GenCon LLC only filed for Chapter 11 a couple of months ago.
The cynic in me wonders if they moved up event registration in order to get some cash in their coffers a few weeks earlier. I am in agreement about Gen Con moving up event registration to get more money in the coffers. I think it is true about Wizards waiting to see what happens with the Chapter 11. I contacted a creator of another role playing game and asked him if he was running a demo of his game. He stated that because of the position that Gen Con is in right now his company is waiting before they allow official demos of their products at Gen Con. Also according to Peter Adkins, owner of Gen Con, the Chapter 11 proceedings should be over by the end of this month. I am thinking more like some time next month and we will see a notice somewhere that more events have been added to Gen Con's event registration. After saying that I am wondering how many gamers will wait and see before registering for events. I am one that will wait because I am only going for one day and I only want to play RPGA events.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 19, 2008 - 4:39AM
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I find it telling that other major gaming companies (like Upper Deck Entertainment) aren't listed for events yet either.
So, while it's frustrating for those that want to do all their planning in advance, it would seem Wizards is far from the only company (major or otherwise) that's taking a cautious approach.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 19, 2008 - 5:40AM
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WOTC's reason for the delay is irrelevant in my opinion. They may have good reason. Leaving its customers is the dark is the main problem. They should be telling us something. After all they announce right on the website the LFR launches at Gencon 2008. If this is in doubt then just bloody say so. Please treat your customers with respect. I have seen Chris Tulach respond to other threads in the last few days. Surely he has seen this thread by now. So he has either chosen not to respond or has been instructed not to. Either way someone is knowingly ignoring our concerns.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 19, 2008 - 9:04AM
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WOTC's reason for the delay is irrelevant in my opinion. They may have good reason. Leaving its customers is the dark is the main problem. They should be telling us something. After all they announce right on the website the LFR launches at Gencon 2008. If this is in doubt then just bloody say so. Please treat your customers with respect. I have seen Chris Tulach respond to other threads in the last few days. Surely he has seen this thread by now. So he has either chosen not to respond or has been instructed not to. Either way someone is knowingly ignoring our concerns. I think the lawyers are telling all of the companies that have not listed events or even if they are attending the show not to make a statement. I imagine that Peter Adkinson and Gen Con are trying to resolve the situation right away. Also Gen Con has moved up event registration at least two weeks. We still have the whole month May ahead of us.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 19, 2008 - 10:23AM
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I saw that post, too...though I'd like to see some sort of official word on that before I put too much weight in it.
That said...legal matters are rarely quick, and, IIRC, GenCon LLC only filed for Chapter 11 a couple of months ago.
The cynic in me wonders if they moved up event registration in order to get some cash in their coffers a few weeks earlier. GenCon posted last year that they'd move event registration up. So there was warning. The post on the GenCon forum is just speculation on behalf of a disgruntled person. No one at WoTC confirmed that.
We could just as easily speculate that the reason for the hold up is that WoTC is busy reworking something on 4th ed, repainting and fumigating their offices or the person responsible for the submission fried his/her computer and needs the GeekSquad to help locate lost data.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 19, 2008 - 1:18PM
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WOTC's reason for the delay is irrelevant in my opinion. They may have good reason. Leaving its customers is the dark is the main problem. They should be telling us something. After all they announce right on the website the LFR launches at Gencon 2008. If this is in doubt then just bloody say so. Please treat your customers with respect. I have seen Chris Tulach respond to other threads in the last few days. Surely he has seen this thread by now. So he has either chosen not to respond or has been instructed not to. Either way someone is knowingly ignoring our concerns. Sure. And when did they announce this? Hmmmm, at GenCon 2007, IIRC. So when did GenCon LLC announce they were filling for Chapter 11? I'm thinking it was some time after GenCon 2007. Just saying.
Course, it would be the height of foolishness for GenCon's creditors to tear apart the company to get their pennies on the dollar over a matter that wasn't related to GenCon Indie. Lord knows it could be done, but it would be moronic. That being said, there are many folks who don't want to tie themselves down monetarily to a convention that may not be there in a month.
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