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2 years ago ::
Jun 15, 2008 - 4:33AM
#11
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I'm going with
Barbarian
Bard
Druid
Illusionist
Sorcerer
Summoner
Transmuter
Wu Jen
I'm not sure exactly how that jives with the three totally new comment, though, unless Mearls forgot that Illusionist was its own class once upon a time. Either that, or I'm totally wrong about Wu Jen and it's Wnewclass, like Witch or something.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 15, 2008 - 8:11AM
#12
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I wonder, though, if the classes that are presented in books like the Forgotten Realms books will be collected into a mainstream PH. If so, then the Swordsage might be one of the S's.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 15, 2008 - 8:17AM
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Since you've had to clear up sooo much from the videos, I think you should give us the second letters as well.
*looks innocent*
What? It's worth a try. :D
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2 years ago ::
Jun 15, 2008 - 8:18AM
#14
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I wonder, though, if the classes that are presented in books like the Forgotten Realms books will be collected into a mainstream PH. If so, then the Swordsage might be one of the S's.
Like a few other classes, the 4E wizard has a narrower range of power options than the 3rd Edition wizard. Some of these powers are coming later (summoning and illusions, for example),[/quote]
Definite confirmation that summoning and illusions are coming, whether they're part of wizard or their own classes. My bet is their own classes, slamming them into Wizard would just result in more cherry picking of the best from each type of magic.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 15, 2008 - 5:19PM
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3 new instead of only 3 old does change things up a bit, indeed. I think the sorcerer would be elemental power source... could be a 3rd power source added besides Shadow and Primal, but with Bard arcane (though I think Primal could have worked), not sure I'm seeing it. Suppose one of the S could be Swordmage again, but that would be disappointing. The only problem with the second source being Shadow is that it begs for Necromancer. Maybe that's just not in the cards for a PC class. Still, I'd think 'I' for Illusionist would be a good way to pick up a controller and just fun for the game. Anyhow, other things to have W start, after Witch* or Wraith* - Wrath, Wind, Whirlwind, Watcher, Wrestler, Wuxia, Wendigo, Witness. I'm not too big on the idea of having a 'Summoner', but I guess it's possible. Eh. Ah well, no real reason to change my guesses. Yet. 
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2 years ago ::
Jun 15, 2008 - 5:49PM
#16
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In Rich Baker's blog, he talks about the sorcerer being an arcane controller. Given that all classes are chosen and in playtest, I doubt that it would be anything else. Changing its source between Baker's blog entry and now would've resulted in a massive fluff & power re-write.
Three completely, utterly new classes - That says to me "Don't use existing class names to try guessing them." There are clues from the full Mearls interview. One of them seems to be a striker, while another alludes towards the "cloth-priest" concept. Are the arcane and divine sources being filled out to four classes each, making them ripe for Powers sourcebooks? Quite possibly.
At this stage, I think Primal will be the PHB2's star source, and others like Psi, Shadow, Ki and Elemental will have to wait their turn.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 15, 2008 - 8:29PM
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Sorcerer is almost definitely in, probably from a Primal power source. In "Races and Classes", they mentioned that a sorcerer was in production which wreathed himself in elemental magic after casting spells.
I hope that's actually the case... that would make me and one of my players very happy.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 16, 2008 - 12:55AM
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Sorcerer is almost definitely in, probably from a Primal power source. In "Races and Classes", they mentioned that a sorcerer was in production which wreathed himself in elemental magic after casting spells.
I think someone from WotC stated that the sorcerer was an arcane controller.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 16, 2008 - 1:18AM
#19
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T could be "telepath". S could be "soulknife". That's assuming Psi gets a look-in in PH2.
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2 years ago ::
Jun 16, 2008 - 10:16AM
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[indent]My guesses are:[indent]B Barbarian (Primal Defender)
B Bard (Arcane Leader) - I can't wait!
D Druid (Primal Striker)
I Something completely new.
S Shaman (Primal Leader)
S Sorcerer (Arcane Controller)
T Something completely new.
W Something completely new.[/indent]Perhaps PHB II will be Arcane, Divine, and Primal Heroes. This will round off the Arcane and Divine power sources (developers have stated that the Martial power source is complete for now), as well as introduce a new one; which will of course be further rounded in the next PHB.
If it was not explicitly stated that three were "completely and utterly new", then I would have stated:[indent]I Inquisitor (Divine Striker)
T Theurge (Divine Controller)[/indent]But "completely and utterly new" sort of nullifies the idea. Unless "completely and utterly new" is in regard to the concept in which they were originally formulated, and not their name/title.[/indent]
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