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That would explain why I don't know about them.  I am just on the wide beta.  Thanks.

Thanks for the input and I have passed it along. If there is more info, please continue to PM me.  Also, if you could capture the build you are on as well, it would be helpful.  For build, we just need the last 3 numbers in the lower right corner of the game client.  For instance, right now we are on BETA 3.4.72.280, so all I would need would be 280. 

In general, we don't want to see all of the little bugs posted in these forums, such as "New Phyrexia set symbol is too small on cards".  Players should continue to file bugs the normal way. 

In general, we would rather hear about your likes and dislikes and the reasons behind those feelings, but things like: "I hate trading because half the time it freezes" are valuable to hear about in this thread, and since I don't have immediate access to every bug report, I may solicit more info to take directly to the devs and QA.  
   
Thanks for your help,
Chris   

Thanks Chris, this makes sense.

For the Collection text search, you should use a dash (-) to exclude a word. Google, which is what most people are familiar with for searching, uses a dash (-) to exclude a word and a tilde sign (~) to include similar words. (support.google.com/websearch/bin/answer … wer=136861)

For example, the query [ -kor ] would exclude Lancers en-Kor . [ en-kor ] would match it, and [ "-kor" ] would match it.

Feb 26, 2013 -- 2:11PM, PirateAmmo wrote:

For the Collection text search, you should use a dash (-) to exclude a word. Google, which is what most people are familiar with for searching, uses a dash (-) to exclude a word and a tilde sign (~) to include similar words. (support.google.com/websearch/bin/answer … wer=136861)

For example, the query [ -kor ] would exclude Lancers en-Kor . [ en-kor ] would match it, and [ "-kor" ] would match it.

While we don't support ~, pretty sure we support -.  Have you tried those exact seaches in the Wide Beta? 

Feb 26, 2013 -- 2:30PM, WotC_K wrote:

While we don't support ~, pretty sure we support -. Have you tried those exact seaches in the Wide Beta?

In the current Wide Beta, you use a tilde sign (~) to exclude a word. I was suggesting that you should use a dash (-) instead, because that is what most people would expect.

Currently, [ -kor ] does not match anything for some reason.

Feb 26, 2013 -- 2:50PM, PirateAmmo wrote:

Feb 26, 2013 -- 2:30PM, WotC_K wrote:

While we don't support ~, pretty sure we support -. Have you tried those exact seaches in the Wide Beta?

In the current Wide Beta, you use a tilde sign (~) to exclude a word. I was saying that you should use a dash (-) instead, because that is what most people would expect.

Currently, [ -kor ] does not match anything for some reason.

Gotcha.  Thanks for the clarification.   

Feb 22, 2013 -- 5:55PM, licid wrote:

They really need to update this client, it shouldn't take up as much resources as it does.

Licid, I'm not sure that your suggestion is fair when you say that it doesn't take much resources to create a new client.  I am not a coder, so I'm happy to be proven wrong on this point.  Can anyone confirm if it is very labour-intensive to create a client for MTG?

Licid, do you have any specific feedback on the BETA that you'd like to pass on?  You simply said they "need to update this client" but didn't provide any information on what needs updating?  I'd be interested to hear what you meant.

I think the new client is coming along nicely. I have two suggestions/questions:

1) When looking at your collection or when trading with a "list view" of all versions of the cards showing, it is not possible to see whether a given card is a foil or not? Could we get some foil indicator? Right now I have to look at them in "card view" or filter out the foils. Or maybe I have missed some functionality.

2) When looking at your collection or when trading using the "card view"-style with all versions of the cards showing, it is difficult to see which version/set the specific card belongs to. I have to either filter out the set or recognize the set-symbol in the preview pane. Would it be possible to have the set-name showing in the text box appearing when I drag the cursor onto the card (as in the V3 client)? At least when trading, I would like to know which set-version of a card I am picking out.

I just encountered the trade freezes client error people have been posting about here. It happened when I double clicked on an ad in Classifieds. The whole client greyed out after acknowledging the trade request and never recovered until I killed the process in the Task Manager. (I am running win vista home premium svc pack2 build 6.0.6002 with 4gb ram, dualcore 2.6ghz cpu and this is with the current beta build 3.4.72.281.)

Feb 28, 2013 -- 5:31PM, Telir wrote:

I just encountered the trade freezes client error people have been posting about here. It happened when I double clicked on an ad in Classifieds. The whole client greyed out after acknowledging the trade request and never recovered until I killed the process in the Task Manager. (I am running win vista home premium svc pack2 build 6.0.6002 with 4gb ram, dualcore 2.6ghz cpu and this is with the current beta build 3.4.72.281.)

One thing about this bug is that it's not completely random. Say it crashes with a certain trader and you restart the program, it's most likely going to crash again with the same exact person if you try it again.

Some suggestions for the card & collection view: it would be great if hovering or the cards or clicking them with the right button could give some kind of tooltip that would tell what formats is this card legal in, what the name of the set is and what sets in it has it been printed. Most online card databases do this, so MTGO should too.

This also relates to a problem with promo (or special set) cards. For an example if you have the Graveborn deck and I filter out all black modern cards I own, it lists the Hidden Horror there, but shows that I have 0 of them (because it shows the M10 version there). If I click "Show All Versions", it doesn't list the card anymore! Even though I have a Modern legal card that is in a set that is not modern legal by default (Graveborn).

Another problem related to filtering foils & non-foils: There's no way to filter the foils I have. If I choose show foil cards and quantity over 1, it shows foil versions of EVERY CARD I OWN. That logic should only show the foils I own. The filter doesn't work as expected.

Mar 1, 2013 -- 4:05AM, kikkeli wrote:

Feb 28, 2013 -- 5:31PM, Telir wrote:

I just encountered the trade freezes client error people have been posting about here. It happened when I double clicked on an ad in Classifieds. The whole client greyed out after acknowledging the trade request and never recovered until I killed the process in the Task Manager. (I am running win vista home premium svc pack2 build 6.0.6002 with 4gb ram, dualcore 2.6ghz cpu and this is with the current beta build 3.4.72.281.)

One thing about this bug is that it's not completely random. Say it crashes with a certain trader and you restart the program, it's most likely going to crash again with the same exact person if you try it again.

Some suggestions for the card & collection view: it would be great if hovering or the cards or clicking them with the right button could give some kind of tooltip that would tell what formats is this card legal in, what the name of the set is and what sets in it has it been printed. Most online card databases do this, so MTGO should too.

This also relates to a problem with promo (or special set) cards. For an example if you have the Graveborn deck and I filter out all black modern cards I own, it lists the Hidden Horror there, but shows that I have 0 of them (because it shows the M10 version there). If I click "Show All Versions", it doesn't list the card anymore! Even though I have a Modern legal card that is in a set that is not modern legal by default (Graveborn).

Another problem related to filtering foils & non-foils: There's no way to filter the foils I have. If I choose show foil cards and quantity over 1, it shows foil versions of EVERY CARD I OWN. That logic should only show the foils I own. The filter doesn't work as expected.

That was not my experience at all. I traded with the same user again and had no problem.

Feb 28, 2013 -- 1:13AM, Dwarven_Pony wrote:

Feb 22, 2013 -- 5:55PM, licid wrote:

They really need to update this client, it shouldn't take up as much resources as it does.

Licid, I'm not sure that your suggestion is fair when you say that it doesn't take much resources to create a new client.  I am not a coder, so I'm happy to be proven wrong on this point.  Can anyone confirm if it is very labour-intensive to create a client for MTG?

Licid, do you have any specific feedback on the BETA that you'd like to pass on?  You simply said they "need to update this client" but didn't provide any information on what needs updating?  I'd be interested to hear what you meant.

I should of been more detailed, the beta client takes up more memory resources than the older client, yet the beta client seems to lag a bit more than the older client.  The amount of time it takes to load your collection and load the trade drop down menu for the trade binders are ridiculous.  The older client doesn't even show any kind of lag when I click on collection and loads instantly, yet the beta does.

For example, as of  now I have my old cilent open, actively in a game and it is taking up 300MB of memory.  The beta client is at the login screen and is taking up 620MB of memory.  I think it shows sign of bad resource management, lag for no good reason and that is not acceptable in my book.


Hopefully they optimize it some more for performance before it releases.

Many thanks Licid for your helpful clarification of the reason for your grievance with the BETA.

Dear Wizards,

May I provide some helpful feedback regarding the Collection screen (non-card items owned).

I find it too easy to accidentally crack open a booster.  I did this last night by mistake, and it is not the first time.  Can we have a message ("Are you sure you want to open this booster"?).  Currently a simple click on the icon in the middle of the booster opens it.

Thanks

I find it annoying that the same filters are in effect for the cards and the non-cards Collection screens. For example, I'm looking at my cards to see the GTC cards for which I have less than 4. I select GTC from Sets and set the quantity filters to 0-3. Then, I check to see how many tickets I have to spend. When I switch to the non-cards screen, there aren't any tickets displayed! I have to reset the quantity filter to see them. Then, when I return to the cards screen, I have to switch it back.

Am I alone with these trading screen crashes? I mean, I can't really submit any bug reports as it just freezes. Usually it happens with bots with large collections. And it happens very, very often. I've also had the client freeze when selecting cards in trade, as well as when typing "done" for the bot. It's driving me crazy! Other parts of the client work with no crashes!

Kikkeli, I'm glad someone is speaking up about the huge white elephant in the room.  I was also just reading a Star City Games forum on BETA feedback, and the freezing issue during trading is also being reported there.

In my experience, the Freezing seems to be on the rise again (in my experience).  I had to shut down the client around 8 times yesterday because of the freezing which occurred during trading.  

To give further details, the problem seemed most to occur when a bot took my items, and then I press a number to ask the bot to remove the items that I don't want to trade.  After many crashes, the only solution I found was take my cards out of the Active Trade binder so that the bots would not try to trade for them.

For me it happens most often when I just initate the trade. It shows that a chat opens up, but the trade never comes and the client is frozen.

It seems to me that trading with the Open Beta client has recently gotten worse with respect to freezing. Last night I struggled quite a bit to open my first trade. I had to kill the client multiple times, etc. Once I was able to get it working for the first trade, it seemed to work well for the subsequent ones (i.e. no issues).

 I really like that the beta client preserves my trade filters across trades. This makes it much more efficient (assuming that I can open the trade in the first place!).

When I import a new deck and I am missing cards, if I right-click in the Main Deck area and select Add Needed Cards to Wish List, it only adds the missing cards in the main deck. It should add all missing cards from both the main deck and the sideboard whether I right-click in the Main Deck area or the Sideboard area.

I add a card to the Wish List so that I can trade for a card with that name. I do not care which version I get. While I am looking at my trade partner's binder, I should be able to filter for cards with the same name as a card in my Wish List regardless of version. I should be able to do this by checking "Compare to wishlist" and unchecking "Show all Versions".

so i was trying to build a deck for testing purposes.
That was an hour ago .... i removed 17 card from a loaded decklist one by one pretty much.
not much to add here, the client freezes after about every action.
It even froze when i was scrolling the deckbuilding area once.

Come on this is ridiculus ....

Mar 5, 2013 -- 9:28AM, PirateAmmo wrote:

When I import a new deck and I am missing cards, if I right-click in the Main Deck area and select Add Needed Cards to Wish List, it only adds the missing cards in the main deck. It should add all missing cards from both the main deck and the sideboard whether I right-click in the Main Deck area or the Sideboard area.

When I add a card to the Wish List, I am looking for a card with that name. I do not care which version I get. When I am looking at my trade partner's binder, I should be able to filter for cards with the same name as a card in my Wish List regardless of version. I should be able to do this by checking "Compare to wishlist" and unchecking "Show all Versions".

I had a bug relating to the Add Needed Cards to Wish List feature. I kept pressing it, but it did not add the cards to the wish list. Had to do it manually

Edit: Sorry, I just realized this is not a bug thread. But heeyyy, it's still feedback!

I think the beta is coming along nicely. still needs some work but overall it is looking alot better.
I do have a small problem with the list view it is a list view and 1 or 2 updates ago you added icons for the rarity i dont think that is needed and makes it look ugly, the set name is already in the line all that is needed is the rarity. Mythic, Rare, Uncommon and Common.
The icon actualy makes it harder to see what rarity it is.

One other thing please change the foil indicator that square icon is horrid looking please bring back the shooting star, it looks so much better.

Is there a way to export a single CSV of my entire collection? Or, do I have to perform one export for cards and another for non-cards?

A few things that the new interface seems to be missing in the deckbuilding area:

1) The ability to sort in sch a way as to visually see the curve of my deck.  The current option to sort by mana cost simply rearranges them within columns by color which is only slightly helpful.

2)Deck stats does not seem to be an option. It is nice to be able to see average mana cost and color composition on demand.     

3)Filters seem to exclude cards which they shouldn't.  For example, when I hit the "Standard" filter, my collection shows zero copies of Acidic Slime, a Standard legal card, but when I remove the filter, it shows four copies.    

Not sure if this has been discussed but it would be awesome if we could get an auction house for trading instead of having to rely on bots. The biggest problems with trading now is that when I search for a card I have to sift through to see which bots are selling and which are buying, what their prices are, and if they are available. Its at the point where its almost impossible to trade human to human because most humans leave their ads up too long or dont pay attention and so when I go to talk to them to get a good price I get no response or get a response after I have bought the cards from a bot.

I know some bot owners would object to an AH style trading system but quite frankly I dont see why we should be stuck with a bot system that leaves no room for simple and efficient human to human trading. An AH would be like giving bot software to all players and even the playing field and make a much better user experience. Trading is easily one of the biggest barriers to playing on MTGO and I would really like to see the MTGO team address this at some point. 

+1 to KidKorrupt's suggestion.  We would LOVE an auction house.

Crashed twice now with the new update trying to establish a trade connection. Also crashed once while trying to update my active tradebinder.

Also no idea why but it appears the beta is calling wisptis.exe which is a pen tool ap that comes with Vista.

Mar 13, 2013 -- 9:03AM, KidKorrupt wrote:

simple and efficient human to human trading.

'simple and efficient' and 'human trading' do not go together.
An AH offers nothing to wotc, you won't be seeing on for a very long time (if ever).

Mar 13, 2013 -- 11:33AM, Telir wrote:

Crashed twice now with the new update trying to establish a trade connection. Also crashed once while trying to update my active tradebinder.

Also no idea why but it appears the beta is calling wisptis.exe which is a pen tool ap that comes with Vista.

Well trading is disabled while we are still in part of our downtime.  Check out the blog or home scene announcments for addtional details on today's downtime. 

Mar 13, 2013 -- 12:40PM, WotC_K wrote:

Mar 13, 2013 -- 11:33AM, Telir wrote:

Crashed twice now with the new update trying to establish a trade connection. Also crashed once while trying to update my active tradebinder.

Also no idea why but it appears the beta is calling wisptis.exe which is a pen tool ap that comes with Vista.

Well trading is disabled while we are still in part of our downtime.  Check out the blog or home scene announcments for addtional details on today's downtime. 

Even so, the client should not freeze/crash when denying a trade.

-edit-
and on a lighter note thank you for the promo Avacyn's Pilgrim.

However when I was looking at my promos in the beta collection screen the first thing I noticed was all the promos I have 0 of show up. They don't disappear when I change the quantity slider. I am assuming this is a bug but it might also just be an oversight. I think expected behavior should be to have a check box in the collection filters area or something similar that says "Cards Owned" that defaults to on.

on trading:
i noticed today that the new client still only searches for the eaxt same string you type into the textbox in the classifieds.
It would be nice if at least advanced text searching options would be possible when sophisticated trading is not (Serverside implementation problem according to the Q&A session).
so that when i search for "cardname1 cardname2" the client looks for posts that incldue both words and not only for posts that have the exact sequence.
Maybe searching with RegExs would be useful too but i guess its complicated for users not familiar with them.

//edit:
on deckbuilding:
it would be nice if the client would sperate the creatures and the spells in two different rows while deckbuilding like most people do in paper magic.
it could be also offered as an option.

Experienced a deckbuilding issue tonight which I sure hope is not intended design.  When building a sealed or draft pool, if you have to exit and restart the client, it resets your progress; the deckbuilding screen pops up properly, but it's all one giant pool again.  Tonight i got the error ""We're sorry, but an unexpected error occurred with your deck submission. Please log out and log back in to try again." when I submitted my deck with around 1:30 to go.  I did so but by the time i got back i only had a few seconds left and despite my best efforts couldn't get it built and submitted in time and played all game 1's of the swiss draft with my entire pool and random lands as my deck.  If this is not a bug, highly suggest you explore ways to save deckbuilding progress during limited events, or you are going to have quite a few reimbursements requests (especially early on when errors like described above are causing client restarts).

Thanks for listening.  I am seeing the recent progress on the beta and liking it overall; unfrotunately the first time i finally switched over and used for something serious it screwed me =)

 

Mar 13, 2013 -- 7:12PM, Xarby wrote:

Experienced a deckbuilding issue tonight which I sure hope is not intended design.  When building a sealed or draft pool, if you have to exit and restart the client, it resets your progress; the deckbuilding screen pops up properly, but it's all one giant pool again.  Tonight i got the error ""We're sorry, but an unexpected error occurred with your deck submission. Please log out and log back in to try again." when I submitted my deck with around 1:30 to go.  I did so but by the time i got back i only had a few seconds left and despite my best efforts couldn't get it built and submitted in time and played all game 1's of the swiss draft with my entire pool and random lands as my deck.  If this is not a bug, highly suggest you explore ways to save deckbuilding progress during limited events, or you are going to have quite a few reimbursements requests (especially early on when errors like described above are causing client restarts).

Thanks for listening.  I am seeing the recent progress on the beta and liking it overall; unfrotunately the first time i finally switched over and used for something serious it screwed me =)

 

Apparently you CAN save your deck by right clicking the pool field (without being over a card). You get a context menu with the options to save or load a deck.

Thanks, but i still think they need some sort of automated save; i'd guess that most situations in which this is a problem will be crashes or other problems that you can't manually save during.  

1. Is it not a huge step backwards that a simple feature like loading a saved deck now requires two steps instead of one?

2. When you're building a deck visually instead of list view, the graphic for an unowned card is quite overdone and very distracting. Instead of huge yellow bars, can we go back to the red text, or something else simple? Or give the players an option of what kind of graphic they want?

Pretty new user of MTGO, and have mainly used the new client. While moving things around my collection today, I managed to accidentally crack all my packs, when I was clicking around trying to "add all to trade binder." Luckily it was only 4 packs (still pretty lame). I know it was quite clumsy of me, but I still would have liked to be prompted and asked for confirmation before opening all of my packs (or any at all, for that matter).

Mar 15, 2013 -- 2:39AM, Snozzwangler wrote:

Pretty new user of MTGO, and have mainly used the new client. While moving things around my collection today, I managed to accidentally crack all my packs, when I was clicking around trying to "add all to trade binder." Luckily it was only 4 packs (still pretty lame). I know it was quite clumsy of me, but I still would have liked to be prompted and asked for confirmation before opening all of my packs (or any at all, for that matter).

Didn't they add the confimation in the latest update?

Mar 15, 2013 -- 6:05AM, kikkeli wrote:

Didn't they add the confimation in the latest update?

That is what it says in the change list.

Added: Confirmation dialog when using Open button to open sealed product in collection

Mar 15, 2013 -- 8:08AM, PirateAmmo wrote:

Mar 15, 2013 -- 6:05AM, kikkeli wrote:

Didn't they add the confimation in the latest update?

That is what it says in the change list.

Added: Confirmation dialog when using Open button to open sealed product in collection

For the Open button, but you still have to be careful with the context menu open options. 

The option to set how long it takes for additional text to be displayed when hovering over cards has apparently been removed. I had always set it to be a little bit faster, but now it's stuck at what appears to be nearly three seconds. Additionally, the text displayed is missing one of the most crucial pieces of information I would like: the set name. If I'm viewing collections using the Card View (as opposed to list view), then all I see is a picture of the card. Well, I don't know the name of every set simply based on the icon. I know a lot of them, but not all of them. The only way I can see the set name then is to switch back to list view.

There's also an incredibly annoying bug that occurs when viewing cards in the collection: the scroll bar literally disappears, and it won't let me scroll down to view the rest of the cards. I have to close the entire client and restart it to get the scroll bar back.

Mar 13, 2013 -- 12:36PM, Niabock wrote:

Mar 13, 2013 -- 9:03AM, KidKorrupt wrote:

simple and efficient human to human trading.

'simple and efficient' and 'human trading' do not go together.
An AH offers nothing to wotc, you won't be seeing on for a very long time (if ever).

It wouldnt be human to human, it would an auction house where you put your cards up, pick a price and wait for someone to buy you out. It works great it games like wow and I dont see why its not in wizards best interests.

As is its wizards plan to get new player into magic through duels and then hopefully move them over to MTGO standard where they arrive to the mess of a classified system that is completely incomprehensible to new players. Wizards has every incentive to get new players into MTGO standard as fast as possible and they are leaving money on the table whenever someone goes back to their $10 investment in duels of the planeswalkers.

Mar 18, 2013 -- 9:41AM, KidKorrupt wrote:

Mar 13, 2013 -- 12:36PM, Niabock wrote:

Mar 13, 2013 -- 9:03AM, KidKorrupt wrote:

simple and efficient human to human trading.

'simple and efficient' and 'human trading' do not go together.
An AH offers nothing to wotc, you won't be seeing on for a very long time (if ever).

It wouldnt be human to human, it would an auction house where you put your cards up, pick a price and wait for someone to buy you out. It works great it games like wow and I dont see why its not in wizards best interests.

As is its wizards plan to get new player into magic through duels and then hopefully move them over to MTGO standard where they arrive to the mess of a classified system that is completely incomprehensible to new players. Wizards has every incentive to get new players into MTGO standard as fast as possible and they are leaving money on the table whenever someone goes back to their $10 investment in duels of the planeswalkers.

Interestingly enough, they have every incentive to get new players into LIMITED, far more than standard. And bots are way better for limited players(especially time conscience ones) than auction house.

Its funny that the only people that say that we can't live without bots are botowners .... like bank owners that tell us we absolutly need to save every sinlge bank or we are doomed.

but i guess its convinent for wotc that bots save them a huge amount of work.

This is a very narrow view. I am not a bot owner but I would definitely miss if they weren't around. That said I would like more user to user trade possibilites.

Please refrain yourself from making simplified generalizations.

Mar 19, 2013 -- 6:34AM, kristijanH wrote:

This is a very narrow view. I am not a bot owner but I would definitely miss if they weren't around. That said I would like more user to user trade possibilites.

Please refrain yourself from making simplified generalizations.

Ask yourself why you would miss them.
You would miss them because the current system provided by the client is terrible.
Would you still miss them if we had a better trading system (not even talking about a fully functioning AH just a better system than the current one).

Mar 19, 2013 -- 6:54AM, SteBtwo wrote:

Mar 19, 2013 -- 6:34AM, kristijanH wrote:

This is a very narrow view. I am not a bot owner but I would definitely miss if they weren't around. That said I would like more user to user trade possibilites.

Please refrain yourself from making simplified generalizations.

Ask yourself why you would miss them.
You would miss them because the current system provided by the client is terrible.
Would you still miss them if we had a better trading system (not even talking about a fully functioning AH just a better system than the current one).

I am not sure I'd miss the bots themselves as much as I'd miss the narrow margins created by an efficient if fuedal trading system.

Mar 19, 2013 -- 6:54AM, SteBtwo wrote:

Mar 19, 2013 -- 6:34AM, kristijanH wrote:

This is a very narrow view. I am not a bot owner but I would definitely miss if they weren't around. That said I would like more user to user trade possibilites.

Please refrain yourself from making simplified generalizations.

Ask yourself why you would miss them.
You would miss them because the current system provided by the client is terrible.
Would you still miss them if we had a better trading system (not even talking about a fully functioning AH just a better system than the current one).

I enjoy two things about bots:

• they are always available for instant trade
• they offer a great way to check card prizes

And, as Telir said, a very liquid market makes for small profit margins. Even a fully functioning auction house would not provide all of this. An auction house would be nice, but it has its downsides.

Of all the suggestions I saw recently, the only one that was really interesting was the possibility to view a user's trade binder without entering the trade, even if the user is already in the trade with someone else.

another positive of bots is they sponsor a whole bunch of player run events.
remove the bots and see the prizes (and a lot of interest) in the pre's fall.
An AH isn't going to sponsor our events.

Bots can exist, but right now the completly stifle human trading.
I mean come on when you look at the classifieds you can't tell me with a straight face that you wan't this mess to continues ....
More than half of the bots are just morons trying to scam people that are not familiar with the prices.

Why not make 3 chatrooms:
one for human selling
one for human buying
and one where the bots can do whatever they want

alongside this comes the rule that any account that runs a bot in the first two channels will be banned, without exeptions.

Then improve the search function, and you have a system thats much better than the current one.

The current one looks like a workaround till the real trading system gets introduced, only for some reason they don't do that.

I played back in the day before there were bots. Trading with humans was usually a very frustrating and time consuming experience. More than half the human traders were just morons trying to scam people that are not familiar with the prices.

Ever look at the human ads that are on there? They are buying cards for less than the bots buy them and selling cards for more then the bots sell them. Why would I want to find them, let alone deal with them.

I'm forced to trade with some players as some of the rare promos the bots simply never get. While its not the smoothest process, I've managed to get everyone I needed besides one (note to anyone, if you have a promo darksteel ingot I need 2 more). I do a few searches to see if anyone selling one and if not I throw up an ad and almost always someone messages me.

Good human ads are easy to identify. They're the ones without 7000 characters in them. I still don't see any significant value to vastly overhauling trading.

Mar 19, 2013 -- 11:18AM, Niabock wrote:

Good human ads are easy to identify. They're the ones without 7000 characters in them. I still don't see any significant value to vastly overhauling trading.

Thats quite the funny thing to say from someone who belives that a trade binder is an important feature of magic online

I have absolutely no problem trading currently. Bots have made collecting far easier than it used to be.

What I don't have now is a nice way to view my collection. Its either massive pile o' cards or text list. Neither which is appealing.

I should note for those confused by this that getting rid of bots would not get rid of the businesses behind them. The people who run those bots would still have their large supplies of stock and would still dominate the market, only then you would have deal with a different mechanical system and who knows how that would work? Given the WOTC track record for MTGO, I'd expect some hiccups to say the least.

Mar 19, 2013 -- 11:18AM, Niabock wrote:

Ever look at the human ads that are on there? They are buying cards for less than the bots buy them and selling cards for more then the bots sell them. Why would I want to find them, let alone deal with them.

I'm forced to trade with some players as some of the rare promos the bots simply never get. While its not the smoothest process, I've managed to get everyone I needed besides one (note to anyone, if you have a promo darksteel ingot I need 2 more). I do a few searches to see if anyone selling one and if not I throw up an ad and almost always someone messages me.

Good human ads are easy to identify. They're the ones without 7000 characters in them. I still don't see any significant value to vastly overhauling trading.

I think you would see significant value in making it more than just a text post and search?  Rather than having to figure out how someone might spell a card name or write it out, you could simply overley the search you have for your collection on it.  Then allow people who are posting to put up what they are trading away by selecting the exact cards, and also what they are looking for by selecting the cards and possibly even allow them to say any version or specific version of the card.  That would probably help your search of those promos.

This kind of functionality would help humans and also bots.  As both could take advantage of being able to have what they are offering and/or looking for be easily searchable.  Also allow for multiple cards to be selected in your search so you could find a person or bot that has all or most of the things you want.

I don't have any bots, but I do see the value in bots in that they are always available, and they help to set a price point.  I can understand a lot of work going into bots and maintaining their prices that we all benefit from.

There definitely are things they could do to improve the classifieds (better searching is high on that list) but I see little to no value in an AH being added.

Without some form of partial ticket, or accepted standard trading 'currency' human to human trading will never really ever work. Online it's just too easy to acquire/sell/trade cards with bots and the relative values are too easy to follow on a minute to minute basis (more or less) that card for card trading just almost never happens.

You also have the fact that without the face to face, you just don't get the haggling you get when trading paper cards, if my card is worth 4.23 tix and yours is worth 4.31tix you can guarantee there is going to be some weird attempts to even up the trade.

Personally I would love to see some kind of 'Classifieds binder' put into the game. Make us able to put say 50 objects into that binder, and set a price for each one (up to 2 decimal places) and mark it for advertisement on the classifieds. Then let people search for whole cards (maybe by right clicking on a card in their collection and selecting search for this card) and have the classifed just show the people that have that card for trade, put the card you want at the start with it's price clearly labelled. Click on the person whos price you are happy with and go into a trade screen with the tix and card already in their required places, both parties confirm, and trade is made.

Definitely a step down with this update.  My wishlist keeps emptying itself when I close/open the program, right-click "Add 1/All to Trade Binder" is not functioning, and right-click "Add needed cards to wish list" is also not adding anything.

Today, I opened the Wide Beta client for the first time, and looked at the Classifieds (never did that in the closed Beta). So, since when can we filter the list by buddies? And order posts by username? These are both great features that I will miss very much when trading in v3. And they work very fast too.

And while I'm a big fan of folder view, the filtering capabilities of the new client work wonders in trade. Now if only there would be price tags on cards offered for trade ...

Mar 22, 2013 -- 4:11AM, Zlehtnoba wrote:

Now if only there would be price tags on cards offered for trade ...

I support your suggestion 1,000 times!!!

I say a thousand because of the amount of times that we waste time by clicking on items from bots and waiting to see their prices in the chat.  I believe this is a massively important feature in order to improve the efficiencies of trades.

Guys do you even use your client ? I am new to MTGO, i am programmer myself (not a good one), but i'd never release this kind of software. I didn't see such a user-unfriendly and buggy software in a while as MTGO classic/Beta client. I know its beta, but still... i feel more like tester than player and i am paying for this. I've already send some bugs to your report system, but come on...its payed, start to work.

Dear Grekk,

I am a huge fan of the BETA.  It rocks in my opinion!  I raise a thousand cheers to the sky for BETA (and a million cheers if all my items of feedback will be incorporated, particularly the arrows & the binder & a human voice added for all Phases of the Turn on which one has placed a priority pause).

BETA software by definition means that there will be some bugs / issues not fully resolved.  Respectlfully I do not believe that your expecations are realistic if you do  not expect bugs.  My polite and gentlemanly recommendation is that if you wish to have a bug-free experience, then perhaps it's best you focus on V3 (the current client) until the BETA is officially launched as the sole platform. 

Wishing you a wonderful day ahead.

When trading, I want to see how many of a particular card they have for trade and how many of that card I have in my collection. I don't want to accidentally trade for more than 4 of a card. Hopefully, I've explained what I am trying to do clearly enough.

How do I accomplish this using the Beta Client? I recently wanted to get the last few commons and uncommons that I needed from GTC. I tried using the Beta Client and couldn't figure out how many of which card to pick. I switched back to the old client for this trade. I hate it when I have to switch back to the old client.

So, I've been playing some more in BETA as the weeks roll by, having the time of my life duelling people from all over the world.  I have the following additional item of constructive feedback which I hope is helpful.

Viewing Basic Lands

Magic workstation is not a free verion of magic. It costs 20€ or 26$. If you pirated the game that does not make it free.

Mar 27, 2013 -- 9:29AM, kristijanH wrote:

Magic workstation is not a free verion of magic. It costs 20€ or 26$. If you pirated the game that does not make it free.

Workstation didn't used to be free.  I know a friend who installed it after it was free.  I looked at him and silently thought to myself "Wow you paid for MWS!!! Yikes!!!!'  

These prices are as I checked today so... it's still not free. Where did you get your copy from if not from the official site?

Edit: On topic. If you move all your swamps into another empty pile you will see the number of cards in that pile. It's not an efficiant workaround but at least it's a workaround. 

I donwloaded my version from the official site around 8 years ago I approximate, in the days when it was free.  I don't want to download later versions because I will be prompted to enter an activation code.

Kindly noted regarding your workaround, thank you. 

Ever since the Beta has been released I cannot make any decks or view my collection. The client freezes and is forced to close any time I load up my collection/deckbuilder. I have already tried to change all the settings like foil and such but still to no avail.

I have a more than decent machine, being able to run crysis 3 and such on high settings. So i don't belive it is outdated hardware to be the fault.

If anyone knows any way at all to fix this it would be greatly appreciated, since it hasn't been fixed for months and months, and they are probably going to force us to use this program sooner or later. 

Apr 7, 2013 -- 1:44PM, ibplunderin wrote:

Ever since the Beta has been released I cannot make any decks or view my collection. The client freezes and is forced to close any time I load up my collection/deckbuilder. I have already tried to change all the settings like foil and such but still to no avail.

I have a more than decent machine, being able to run crysis 3 and such on high settings. So i don't belive it is outdated hardware to be the fault.

If anyone knows any way at all to fix this it would be greatly appreciated, since it hasn't been fixed for months and months, and they are probably going to force us to use this program sooner or later. 

This sounds like a UI fail. There is a slider for how many cards to show on top of the editor. Try playing with that. As for the freezing that is quite odd you should post your beta version here and what steps you take to produce this bug.

Here are some things I would like to see improved:

-"Classifieds(MainNavigationWidth)"/"Active Lists(ActiveListsWidth)" Window Pane width is remembered when restarting application, but are returned to default width after leaving a trade session when the Classifieds scene is re-drawn.
-Filter in Trade and Collection based on how many you own (for example show cards you own less than 1 of), or how many the trade partner has for trade (just like in the current client)
-Ability to use up and down arrows on keyboard to cycle through previous messages sent in chat (just like in the current client)
-Trade Should Remember Column settings for list view, the same way the collection view does.
-When editing list view column settings, menu should not collapse when you click on an item.  It would be more convenient to check/uncheck the items without clicking the column options button each time.
-Ability to visit classifieds section while in a trade - to check prices, etc (just like the current client)
-Ability to right-click username in chat and initiate a trade
-Ability to close a chat tab while chat is docked (optional: keep chat dock open even if no active chats?)
-When entering a new trade session, chat with that buddy should become active.
-When a user sends you a message, the chat window should open, instead of you just getting a "toast" notification and having to manually open a chat with that user to see the message they sent you

Apr 7, 2013 -- 3:24PM, Telir wrote:

Apr 7, 2013 -- 1:44PM, ibplunderin wrote:

Ever since the Beta has been released I cannot make any decks or view my collection. The client freezes and is forced to close any time I load up my collection/deckbuilder. I have already tried to change all the settings like foil and such but still to no avail.

I have a more than decent machine, being able to run crysis 3 and such on high settings. So i don't belive it is outdated hardware to be the fault.

If anyone knows any way at all to fix this it would be greatly appreciated, since it hasn't been fixed for months and months, and they are probably going to force us to use this program sooner or later. 

This sounds like a UI fail. There is a slider for how many cards to show on top of the editor. Try playing with that. As for the freezing that is quite odd you should post your beta version here and what steps you take to produce this bug.

The beta version was since the first open beta to the current version 3.4.73.290.
The steps I have taken to reproduce the bug is to open up the collection and click any card/checkbox or move any window inside of it. sometimes it just freezes for ~1 min and sometimes it crashes. Even then with as much commander and Battle of wits decks I play it is ridiculous to have to wait a minute per card added and hope it doesnt' crash. In case you think it is because i have larger decks, i have also done it when trying to make 60 card decks, deck size doesn't seem to be a factor.

I guess i could put the slider to qty 1-1 (i have it always set to 1-4) when making a commander deck and see if that helps. I have also clicked on collection to try and have it load before I log in and that seems to help sometimes? maybe? I don't know. Just wondering if anyone else is having this problem. My friend that is using my old computer isn't having any problems, he just doesn't like the beta.

Speaking of which the current version just updated right now, so I might fiddle around with it since i made 2 commander decks today and see how they work importing to the new client and messing around with them. See if the problem persists.

*edit:The problem persists, it says MainNavigation is not responding...

Apr 7, 2013 -- 9:13PM, ibplunderin wrote:

Apr 7, 2013 -- 3:24PM, Telir wrote:

Apr 7, 2013 -- 1:44PM, ibplunderin wrote:

Ever since the Beta has been released I cannot make any decks or view my collection. The client freezes and is forced to close any time I load up my collection/deckbuilder. I have already tried to change all the settings like foil and such but still to no avail.

I have a more than decent machine, being able to run crysis 3 and such on high settings. So i don't belive it is outdated hardware to be the fault.

If anyone knows any way at all to fix this it would be greatly appreciated, since it hasn't been fixed for months and months, and they are probably going to force us to use this program sooner or later. 

This sounds like a UI fail. There is a slider for how many cards to show on top of the editor. Try playing with that. As for the freezing that is quite odd you should post your beta version here and what steps you take to produce this bug.

The beta version was since the first open beta to the current version 3.4.73.290.
The steps I have taken to reproduce the bug is to open up the collection and click any card/checkbox or move any window inside of it. sometimes it just freezes for ~1 min and sometimes it crashes. Even then with as much commander and Battle of wits decks I play it is ridiculous to have to wait a minute per card added and hope it doesnt' crash. In case you think it is because i have larger decks, i have also done it when trying to make 60 card decks, deck size doesn't seem to be a factor.

I guess i could put the slider to qty 1-1 (i have it always set to 1-4) when making a commander deck and see if that helps. I have also clicked on collection to try and have it load before I log in and that seems to help sometimes? maybe? I don't know. Just wondering if anyone else is having this problem. My friend that is using my old computer isn't having any problems, he just doesn't like the beta.

Speaking of which the current version just updated right now, so I might fiddle around with it since i made 2 commander decks today and see how they work importing to the new client and messing around with them. See if the problem persists.

*edit:The problem persists, it says MainNavigation is not responding...

This seems odd, might be some strange interaction between your system and the UI; I remember a case where some people had to disable a device driver (IIRC, a graphic pen or something similar) to get the client to work properly. It would be nice if you could bug this, including your full system specs.

Apr 8, 2013 -- 6:08AM, Zlehtnoba wrote:

Apr 7, 2013 -- 9:13PM, ibplunderin wrote:

Apr 7, 2013 -- 3:24PM, Telir wrote:

Apr 7, 2013 -- 1:44PM, ibplunderin wrote:

Ever since the Beta has been released I cannot make any decks or view my collection. The client freezes and is forced to close any time I load up my collection/deckbuilder. I have already tried to change all the settings like foil and such but still to no avail.

I have a more than decent machine, being able to run crysis 3 and such on high settings. So i don't belive it is outdated hardware to be the fault.

If anyone knows any way at all to fix this it would be greatly appreciated, since it hasn't been fixed for months and months, and they are probably going to force us to use this program sooner or later. 

This sounds like a UI fail. There is a slider for how many cards to show on top of the editor. Try playing with that. As for the freezing that is quite odd you should post your beta version here and what steps you take to produce this bug.

The beta version was since the first open beta to the current version 3.4.73.290.
The steps I have taken to reproduce the bug is to open up the collection and click any card/checkbox or move any window inside of it. sometimes it just freezes for ~1 min and sometimes it crashes. Even then with as much commander and Battle of wits decks I play it is ridiculous to have to wait a minute per card added and hope it doesnt' crash. In case you think it is because i have larger decks, i have also done it when trying to make 60 card decks, deck size doesn't seem to be a factor.

I guess i could put the slider to qty 1-1 (i have it always set to 1-4) when making a commander deck and see if that helps. I have also clicked on collection to try and have it load before I log in and that seems to help sometimes? maybe? I don't know. Just wondering if anyone else is having this problem. My friend that is using my old computer isn't having any problems, he just doesn't like the beta.

Speaking of which the current version just updated right now, so I might fiddle around with it since i made 2 commander decks today and see how they work importing to the new client and messing around with them. See if the problem persists.

*edit:The problem persists, it says MainNavigation is not responding...

This seems odd, might be some strange interaction between your system and the UI; I remember a case where some people had to disable a device driver (IIRC, a graphic pen or something similar) to get the client to work properly. It would be nice if you could bug this, including your full system specs.

I have been having the same problem on and off ever since the first wide beta version.  I don't have to do anything to reprouce the bug - I simply click on the collection tab and the system freezes.  If I click anything after that, I get a not responding error box, and even clicking wait for program to respond is usually useless.  I have tried clicking the tab, then leaving the computer strickyl alone of half an hour or more.  Sometimes the program will load - 20 to 40 minutes later.  Other times I close the progam after an hour, because I actually want to use the program.  Shiney won't even minimize when it is "loading."

We are not the only users with this problem.  I have heard from others claiming similar issues.  

For all of us - could anyone give a quick rundown of what "full system specs" mean to programmers might find useful, and how to get it?  Is this just processor, video card and memory, or would they want more?   Would a list of processes running be important?  And if someone could provide instruction on how to get all of this for at least the most common OSes, that would help all of us who just use computers, instead of buiding or maintaining them.      

dxdiag is best for us.   Here is how to do it:  Windows Menu > Run > type:  dxdiag > OK 

After the DirectX Diagnostic Tool opens, click Save All Information and save to your computer as a .txt file.  Officially, you should submit the file and a discription of your problem to the bug reporting system. 

To make it easier for the people in this thread, you can PM me with a short description of your issue and copy/paste the contents of the text file into the PM and I will pass it along.  Just make sure you give me a description of what you are doing (in Magic Online and what other programs you are running), what the system is doing and then make sure there is a clear separation of the dxdiag. 

Thanks.  
Chris     

Tried to do a trade in the beta client today, and it failed miserably. First problem: I was in a game when the trade request came through, so it popped up *under* the game (stupid design decision, WotC; alerts and chat windows need to be on TOP of everything else, not underneath).  Second problem: when I finally, after communicating with the person that tried to send me a trade request, got them to send the request again, I clicked accept and was greeted with a trade interface that showed NO cards and just sat there being blank (I was hoping that it would populate with stuff eventually, but that was not to be).  I *think* that the end result was my trade partner getting frustrated and canceling the trade.  Given that there's no chat interface on trade, the trade interface didn't show me their username, and that I had closed the chat with them earlier, I had no way to communicate my technical difficulties with them, so now they're probably just permanently irked with me and buying the card they wanted from someone else.

Gotta love when using the new client costs you a sale.  I guess I'll be going back to V3, because while I've finally gotten used to, and even started to like, the duel scene in the beta, if trade functionality is borked, I can't really use it.

*sigh* Just had my brother let me trade with him, and everything seemed to be working fine. What was different about this morning? No idea...

Aren't hard to replicate bugs wonderful?

In the trade section, I made a post, got the cards I was looking for and could not find a cancel post button. Can you include a Cancel Post Button?, thanks.

Apr 18, 2013 -- 2:52PM, jamp07 wrote:

In the trade section, I made a post, got the cards I was looking for and could not find a cancel post button. Can you include a Cancel Post Button?, thanks.

I believe there is one but it is a little inobvious.

Currently there is not one in the Wide Beta client. 

Apr 19, 2013 -- 9:20AM, WotC_K wrote:

Currently there is not one in the Wide Beta client. 

Woops. So much for my fragile memory. But really this seems important as GUI stuff goes.

I posted this (below) in September.  So far nothing has been done.  I cannot use the client as is - foils look like vomit.  At a minimum, get readable card names for foils in the deck builder.

"Foils are pitiful.  I can't even tell what color a foil card is without staring at the screen for a couple of seconds."

Apr 23, 2013 -- 7:50AM, Bazaar_of_Baghdad wrote:

I posted this (below) in September.  So far nothing has been done.  I cannot use the client as is - foils look like vomit.  At a minimum, get readable card names for foils in the deck builder.

"Foils are pitiful.  I can't even tell what color a foil card is without staring at the screen for a couple of seconds."

Foil treatment gets adjusted with tomorrow's build. 

Great news!  Thanks!  Please, please don't disappoint.

I still don't think it is exactly where we want it as it may be too subtle, but it errs on the side of legibility this time so at least foil cards are playable. 

I know there has been many suggestions on both in game client chat and multiplayer games.  Are there significant improvements planned for addressing these issues?

Apr 23, 2013 -- 8:08AM, Homer-s_Duff wrote:

I know there has been many suggestions on both in game client chat and multiplayer games.  Are there significant improvements planned for addressing these issues?

Chat gets some more improvements tomorrow.  The full change list will be here later today.

Major multiplayer changes are waiting for additional upgrades to battlefield and Duel Scene in general.

I'm trying out the new beta now since I want to be prepared for the release.
However, there's a problem with layers here. When I'm in the deckeditor I can't change the sort for instance (right click doesn't do anything and clicking the View button doesn't do anything either).

I'm running Windows XP, downloaded the hotfix, but nothing changed.

De-installed MTGO completely, re-downloaded the beta, re-installed, still no options to do this. (I can change the view by clicking "View" and then clicking under it, but thats just doing it blindly :P).

I didn't find anything in the internet besides the hotfix and that doesn't seem to help

Help would be evry appreciated!

Click the sort dropdown menu.

Apr 23, 2013 -- 8:33AM, kristijanH wrote:

Click the sort dropdown menu.

Doesn't show up, thats the whole problem lol

Apr 23, 2013 -- 8:31AM, Kuro_Yuki wrote:

I'm trying out the new beta now since I want to be prepared for the release.
However, there's a problem with layers here. When I'm in the deckeditor I can't change the sort for instance (right click doesn't do anything and clicking the View button doesn't do anything either).

I'm running Windows XP, downloaded the hotfix, but nothing changed.

De-installed MTGO completely, re-downloaded the beta, re-installed, still no options to do this. (I can change the view by clicking "View" and then clicking under it, but thats just doing it blindly :P).

I didn't find anything in the internet besides the hotfix and that doesn't seem to help

Help would be evry appreciated!

This general problem is a known issue and Microsoft has a patch for it. Downloading the Wide Beta should prompt you to get that patch if you don't already have it. I believe this is the one that you need: Patch. If that doens't work, please report it (along with a full DxDiag) so we can investigate further.

Apr 23, 2013 -- 9:01AM, WotC_K wrote:

Apr 23, 2013 -- 8:31AM, Kuro_Yuki wrote:

I'm trying out the new beta now since I want to be prepared for the release.
However, there's a problem with layers here. When I'm in the deckeditor I can't change the sort for instance (right click doesn't do anything and clicking the View button doesn't do anything either).

I'm running Windows XP, downloaded the hotfix, but nothing changed.

De-installed MTGO completely, re-downloaded the beta, re-installed, still no options to do this. (I can change the view by clicking "View" and then clicking under it, but thats just doing it blindly :P).

I didn't find anything in the internet besides the hotfix and that doesn't seem to help

Help would be evry appreciated!

This general problem is a known issue and Microsoft has a patch for it. Downloading the Wide Beta should prompt you to get that patch if you don't already have it. I believe this is the one that you need: Patch. If that doens't work, please report it (along with a full DxDiag) so we can investigate further.

I tried it again, still doesn't work. I'Ve reported it with a DxDiag. I just hope it's easily solved ^^

Just as a note, here's what I did excactly:


1. Download beta, install it.
2. started it, the fix did not work since my system was set to japanese.
3. switched back to german system.
4. started v4, downloaded the hotfix, installed it, doesn't work either.
5. De-installed MTGO V3+V4.
6. Downloaded and installed V4. Installed hotfix. started, doesn't work.

It definitely is the known problem though, so I really don't know what the problem might be

Thanks for the help anyway, it'S reported and maybe I just did something wrong^^

Apr 23, 2013 -- 9:35AM, Kuro_Yuki wrote:

Apr 23, 2013 -- 9:01AM, WotC_K wrote:

Apr 23, 2013 -- 8:31AM, Kuro_Yuki wrote:

I'm trying out the new beta now since I want to be prepared for the release.
However, there's a problem with layers here. When I'm in the deckeditor I can't change the sort for instance (right click doesn't do anything and clicking the View button doesn't do anything either).

I'm running Windows XP, downloaded the hotfix, but nothing changed.

De-installed MTGO completely, re-downloaded the beta, re-installed, still no options to do this. (I can change the view by clicking "View" and then clicking under it, but thats just doing it blindly :P).

I didn't find anything in the internet besides the hotfix and that doesn't seem to help

Help would be evry appreciated!

This general problem is a known issue and Microsoft has a patch for it. Downloading the Wide Beta should prompt you to get that patch if you don't already have it. I believe this is the one that you need: Patch. If that doens't work, please report it (along with a full DxDiag) so we can investigate further.

I tried it again, still doesn't work. I'Ve reported it with a DxDiag. I just hope it's easily solved ^^

Just as a note, here's what I did excactly:


1. Download beta, install it.
2. started it, the fix did not work since my system was set to japanese.
3. switched back to german system.
4. started v4, downloaded the hotfix, installed it, doesn't work either.
5. De-installed MTGO V3+V4.
6. Downloaded and installed V4. Installed hotfix. started, doesn't work.

It definitely is the known problem though, so I really don't know what the problem might be

Thanks for the help anyway, it'S reported and maybe I just did something wrong^^

The Microsoft link that Chris gave eventually lets you select your platform and language pair.  I don't think you need to reinstall the client, simply installing the correct patch should fix the issue the next time you run the client.  

Did it again, still doesn't work T_T

I have one more idea though. I can't find the exe for the beta client anywhere (and windows search didn't help yet either), so I'm starting the beta client by clicking the setup to install it (it will take a few seeconds, then notice that it's already installed, and boot). Maybe that's the problem? :X
Can someone tell me how the V4 client exe is named, so I can search for it?^^"

Here:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Apps\2.0\7HD92X3W.X2E\0X0LM1LW.T2B\mtgo..tion_1ad988e60282d0d8_0003.0004_51d294961871bfbb\MTGO.exe

Some folders may be called differently on your computer but the first 6 folders should be the same. Up to:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Apps\2.0\

Thanks, didn't help either sadly

Seems I'll have to wait for the support to help me, if they can. I really don't know how this is supposed to be possible, seeing as there IS a patch to exactly fix this.

Apr 24, 2013 -- 5:20AM, Kuro_Yuki wrote:

Thanks, didn't help either sadly

Seems I'll have to wait for the support to help me, if they can. I really don't know how this is supposed to be possible, seeing as there IS a patch to exactly fix this.

I wouldn't suggest this generally, but since you already changed your language once, maybe try changing your localization to English, and try again? There were some problems early on with users running the new client on "exotic" localizations. No rule to it, but sometimes it happened.

With the release of a large batch of changes today, we're going to reset all of the feedback threads. here is the new Collection, Deckbuilding, and Trading Cards thread.

Locked.