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5 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 8:34AM
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Let's talk about this from the beginning. From last time of the cube draft, we can draft cube by paying 8 event tickets or 10 cube tickets plus 2 event tickets. Then the event will give you at least 2 cube tickets for reward. I have no ideas about whether this attracts more people to play cube drafts. But the problem is that you will have at least 2 cube tickets in your collection, forever, ueslessly, after your first cube draft. Even WORSE than these gold bordered cards (at least you can play them)! Back track to the MBS faction marks, they are extra prizes in the event, so it is reasonable to be untradeable. But the cube tickets are main prizes for cube draft. It should be something valueable. From the draft fee, we can consider 10 cube tickes is less or equal to 6 event tickets. But now, as long as the ticket is locked on the account, they worth much less than 0.6 event tickets. As WotC said in the first accouncement about cube ticket ( www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.a...), "When looking at how we were going to use these new tickets, we really wanted to provide a structure that focuses on players who love Cube, but in a way that encourages participation for all players.". OK, good job WotC. It is good for players who play cube a lot. But for players who just want to have a try, they will get actually nothing if they don't get the 1st/2nd prize. From the view of playes, make the them tradeable will be best for us. I know it is difficult but please at least consider making more flexible for the cube tickets. For example provide some other ways to spend cube tickets less than 10. Thank you for looking and welcome any comments. Btw, is the discussion here can be seen by WotC?
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5 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 10:00AM
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The water marks are what you use for entry into MBS, not prizes. I've got them but I never did any of the pre-release / realease events for them
The cube tickets are set up right now to benefit wizards the most. I personally don't like it so I have not done cube events since they started them. If you want a change you will have to do the same and be vocal about it. If they see enough of a drop in cube and people are vocal about it then the payout strategy will change. If people complain but keep doing the same amount of cube then nothing will change.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 10:07AM
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Let's talk about this from the beginning. From last time of the cube draft, we can draft cube by paying 8 event tickets or 10 cube tickets plus 2 event tickets. Then the event will give you at least 2 cube tickets for reward. I have no ideas about whether this attracts more people to play cube drafts. But the problem is that you will have at least 2 cube tickets in your collection, forever, ueslessly, after your first cube draft. Even WORSE than these gold bordered cards (at least you can play them)!
Back track to the MBS faction marks, they are extra prizes in the event, so it is reasonable to be untradeable. But the cube tickets are main prizes for cube draft. It should be something valueable. From the draft fee, we can consider 10 cube tickes is less or equal to 6 event tickets. But now, as long as the ticket is locked on the account, they worth much less than 0.6 event tickets. As WotC said in the first accouncement about cube ticket (www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.a...), "When looking at how we were going to use these new tickets, we really wanted to provide a structure that focuses on players who love Cube, but in a way that encourages participation for all players.". OK, good job WotC. It is good for players who play cube a lot. But for players who just want to have a try, they will get actually nothing if they don't get the 1st/2nd prize.
From the view of playes, make the them tradeable will be best for us. I know it is difficult but please at least consider making more flexible for the cube tickets. For example provide some other ways to spend cube tickets less than 10.
Thank you for looking and welcome any comments.
Btw, is the discussion here can be seen by WotC?
Hi and welcome to the forums. Answering your last question first - yes the discussion here can be (and always is) seen by WotC.
The point that was made in the article about supporting players who love Cube is true, and was the primary goal when setting up Cube tickets. First and foremost the MTGO team wanted the focus of the Cube events to be on the experience of playing and enjoying Cube as a format. The prize structure hasn't changed between the last Cube and the Holiday Cube, but that doesn't mean it won't change in the future. There's been a lot of community feedback since the Cube Tickets were introduced, and it hasn't fallen on deaf ears.
Sean Gibbons Community Coordinator Magic Online & Duels of the Planeswalkers Twitter: @SeanGibbons Official MTGO Twitter: @MagicOnline
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5 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 10:24AM
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I don't think they will make cube tickets tradeable for the same reason they don't have other events award regular tickets as prizes. It would be too much like giving money prizes.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 1:39PM
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If you are just playing for fun and do not care about EV you do swiss. If you care about EV and want prizes on the line you do single elimination. I do not play magic for EV and only play it for fun but I completely understand why players are unhappy with the cube tickets. I guess the whole point of them is to get players to cube again which makes sense for WOTC to do but it is at the expense of the happiness of a group of players.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 2:19PM
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If you are just playing for fun and do not care about EV you do swiss. If you care about EV and want prizes on the line you do single elimination. I do not play magic for EV and only play it for fun but I completely understand why players are unhappy with the cube tickets. I guess the whole point of them is to get players to cube again which makes sense for WOTC to do but it is at the expense of the happiness of a group of players.
If at least first place of single elim gave out a playset of the classic format available to draft it wouldn't be so bad.
The problem (for me at least) is that the single elim booster prizes are a PITA to use (have to go hunt down extra OOP boosters at who knows what cost) and the swiss prizes are essentially non-existant. One of the reasons they stated for the introduction of cube tickets was that players were apparently unhappy that they couldn't win a cube draft and use their prizes to enter the next one. But they still can't!
So we end up with untradable objects stuck to our account, that we can't use except in specific quantities.
And the argument that they don't make them tradable as the same reason they don't give out tix as prizes? If that was the case why are boosters prizes tradable? They have a $ value associated with them, and they can be cashed out for real money the exact same as tix (ie - not officially or supported by WOTC)
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5 months ago ::
Dec 18, 2012 - 10:52AM
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I am a hold out on playing the Cube. I'll be giving it my first try now that I will have 10 free cube tix from playing a limited event in the beta client over the weekend. I don't mind blowing 2 event tix for drafting phantom P9.
I don't know what I will do with the cube tix that I end up winning, because I'll likely need more cube tix to have enough to play again. The fact that cube tix are not tradeable is what's keeping me away from playing cube.
I have a couple suggestions that would likely win me over to be a MTGO Cube enthusiast....
1. Make cube tix tradable.
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2. Do away with cube tix and reduce the entry fee. Then only do booster pack prizes for 1st place or 1st-4th place, depending on # of tix paid for entry.
If I could play the Cube for 2 tix per go-around, I wouldn't care about prize payout. $2 for a couple hours of fun would be well worth it to me.
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