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7 months ago ::
Oct 31, 2012 - 1:11PM
#71
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Grinders who can afford to play multiple daily events 5-7 days a week have the advantage as they can play more matches and obtain better statistics on how the metagame is.
Players like me who have jobs, school, etc, don't have the luxury to obtain good statistics on the metagame anymore. I can only play one Daily Event a day, 3-4 days of the week, and if I am lucky I can play 3 on a Sunday or Saturday. So of course the players such as myself, who can't grind multiple times in a day have poor statistics on the metagame as we go into Daily Events, get our butt kicked, and still don't have a solid understanding on how to adjust our decks against certain strategies.
If we can have decklists for all Daily Events, then its a fair playing field for everybody as comprehensive statistics of the metagame can become available for everyone, without having to play 2-3 Daily Events everyday.
Formats getting solved too fast? It sure happened when Delver became the best deck before AVR in Standard. But thanks to MTGO people figured out that Zombies and GW/x decks were tier 1 contenders that can compete with Delver and as a result the format was "solved" again.
 I am Blue/Green
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7 months ago ::
Nov 01, 2012 - 12:42AM
#72
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I'm in the minority here, but I actually appreciate this change. It's pretty clear that the proliferation of online deck data leads to metagames being solved (and become stale) much more quickly. Removing some of the data will do some good (if only a little bit.)
Also I've always disliked how your opponents can see your decklists by looking you up on one of those deck aggregation websites.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 01, 2012 - 10:00AM
#73
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Date Joined:
Aug 25, 2011
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Good! Take us 20 years back, when Wizard REALLY thought keeping the decklists secret was paramount to the game's success. And make sure you do it without telling anyone, because that attittude is so much a part of Wizard's history. From Maro's daily MTG archive: "F ull sharing of the deck lists did not happen until the start of the Pro Tour. The deck lists for both the 1994 and 1995 World Championships finalists, for example, were not shared with the public at the time. Interestingly enough, I was the reporter covering both matches for The Duelist and thus was the one who recorded all the decks and then specifically didn't give them out. Obviously, time and the growth of the Internet made Wizards realize that sharing information, not withholding it, was a key part of building the community and metagame". Sigh, you'll never learn.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 01, 2012 - 9:59PM
#74
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Sep 27, 2008
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Jester's Cap, Lobotomy, Bitter Ordeal, Extirpate, Surgical Extraction, Extract, Jester's Mask, Earwig Squad...
None of these cards existed in 1994. These cards exist now. All of them solve the problem you are complaining about. One of the can be cast in ANY DECK by paying zero mana, and it even does something good.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 01, 2012 - 10:36PM
#75
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Date Joined:
Mar 25, 2009
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I put together a lengthy blog post about this issue. Check it out over at my tumblr: oraymw.tumblr.com/post/34814969548/mtgo-...
 Check out Ars Arcanum, my stat based series on Magic Limited, over at PureMTGO. Here is a link to the archive: http://goo.gl/Zvh6Q
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7 months ago ::
Nov 02, 2012 - 3:31AM
#76
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Just realize something sorta obvious...
The reason formats are getting solved so quickly is also due to the drastically reduced set sizes...
Thanks mythics!
Calavera on MTGO
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Things that I want to see changed on MTGO:
1: 64 man drafts added to rotation of Events.
2: Visual/Audible Notification of disconnect, deckbuild/afk time expiring and round starts.
3: Prize Payouts as close to draft sets as possible.
4: Rotate Classic draft queues monthly!
5: MOCS level events for Classic/Pauper
6: Power 9!
7: Award Promo Cards for Constructed PEs (esp for Legacy/Classic)
8: Program Split option back in!
9: Set Favorite version in deck editor (i.e. always use x swamp)
10: Better sorting of gold cards in deck editor.
11: Bring leagues Back!
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7 months ago ::
Nov 02, 2012 - 8:44AM
#77
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Posting to agree that the communication was awful.
Do WOTC really have a 'Communication Officer'? Well I never.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 02, 2012 - 9:57AM
#78
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Aug 25, 2011
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Jester's Cap, Lobotomy, Bitter Ordeal, Extirpate, Surgical Extraction, Extract, Jester's Mask, Earwig Squad...
None of these cards existed in 1994. These cards exist now. All of them solve the problem you are complaining about. One of the can be cast in ANY DECK by paying zero mana, and it even does something good.
Wow, that is so beside the point, it's fairly amazing. Seeing the deck list of your opponent while your playing him does not give you the meta. You'd have to play every participant. Repeatedly, over several tourneys. And Mark's remark does not date back to 1994, and I'm somehow fairly sure he is aware of the existence of these cards when he writes that article.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 02, 2012 - 4:59PM
#79
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Aug 29, 2009
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MaRo's comments on the issue:
markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/34818727981/maro-can-you-please-comment-on-the-decision-not-to
It's very disappointing to see him attribute a format's homogeneity to the availability of metagame analysis. When Standard is not diverse, it's usually because it's dominated by a handful of decks that end up being ported to Legacy or Modern (Affinity, Faeries, Delver, Caw, Jund, Twin, ...). It's not about the fast spread of information, and players' desire to gain a marginal advantage over their opponents by crunching numbers. It's about there being a few decks that blank everything else. You didn't need to squint at pie charts to find out that Caw curbstomped everything.
In Legacy, Blue is the best color. Let's punish blue, in Modern. And they listened!
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7 months ago ::
Nov 02, 2012 - 6:04PM
#80
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MaRo's comments on the issue:
markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/34818727981/maro-can-you-please-comment-on-the-decision-not-to
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“... Obviously, time and the growth of the Internet made Wizards realize that sharing information, not withholding it, was a key part of building the community and metagame.” - Mark Rosewater, 2009
“... Note that we are still showing a lot of decklists so that players can have an idea of what decks are being played and can metagame, but we are making it tougher to crunch hard data.” - Mark Rosewater, 2012
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. - Raoul Duke
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