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1 year ago ::
May 30, 2012 - 12:53PM
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...you know, when MTGO was crashing so much that the forums devolved into utter chaos?
Take a look at the diablo 3 forums over at blizzard right now.
Yes boys and girls, The One Whe Should Take As An Example.... has dropped the ball(tm)
So now what do we do when we want to complain at wizards and call them unprofessional? Which shining beacon of perfection must we point at now?
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Free speech doesn’t include the right to speak your mind on any forum anywhere.
The government may not prevent you from speaking, but private parties, like blog owners or corporations, aren’t required to let you use their property as your platform.
Free speech doesn’t include the right to be believed or to be taken seriously.
People may mock, ridicule or laugh at what you say, or they may reject it outright.
Free speech doesn’t include the right to be listened to.
People who don’t desire to hear your opinion can hang up on you, block you on social media, change the channel, close the browser tab. Free speech doesn’t give you the right to bombard people with harassing messages or otherwise force them to pay attention to you against their will.
And free speech doesn’t include the right to suffer no consequences whatsoever for your expressed opinions.
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1 year ago ::
May 30, 2012 - 1:01PM
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- Volunteer Community Lead
- blame me for the weather
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Note that this isn't schadenfreude about Blizzards, but rather all the posters who held Blizzard up as paragons for whom nothing goes wrong.
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Unfortunately, VCLs do not currently have the tools necessary to take moderation actions directly. VCLs submit their actions to ORCs, who then actually perform the action. This processing can take between a few minutes and several hours, depending on how busy/attentive the ORCs are. If you see something that needs VCL attention, please use this thread (MTGO) or this thread (paper) to make a request and a VCL will look at it as soon as possible. CoC violations should be reported to Customer Service using the "report post" button. Please do not disrupt the thread by making requests of either kind in-thread.General MTGO FAQYes, the Shuffler is Random!The definitive thread on the Magic Online shuffler. Magic Math Made EasyDraw probabilities, Swiss results, Elo ratings and booster EV Event EV CalculatorCalculate the EV for any event with a fixed number of rounds and prizes based on record Dual means two. A duel is a battle between two people. Lands that make two colors of mana are dual lands. A normal Magic battle is a duel. Thanks to PhoenixLAU for the awesome avatar! Quotables Spoiler:
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"Sorry, but this thread seems just like spam. TT is for off-topic discussion, not no-topic discussion."
-WizO_Kwai_Chang
"Stop that! If you're not careful, rational thinking may catch on!" -Sax
"... the only word i see that fits is incompitant." -Mr44 (sic)
"You know a thread is gonna be locked when it gets to the hexadecimal stage." -Gathion
"It's a good gig" - Gleemax
"I tell people often, if you guys want to rant, you've certainly got the right to (provided you obey CoC/ToS stuff), and I don't even really blame you. But if you see something you think needs changing a well thought-out, constructive post does more to make that happen." - Worth Wollpert
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1 year ago ::
May 30, 2012 - 1:20PM
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Think I should have been more explicit about that?
Free Speech
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Free speech is the right to speak your mind without government censorship and without fear of extralegal retaliation like harassment or violence. That’s all!
Free speech doesn’t include the right to speak your mind on any forum anywhere.
The government may not prevent you from speaking, but private parties, like blog owners or corporations, aren’t required to let you use their property as your platform.
Free speech doesn’t include the right to be believed or to be taken seriously.
People may mock, ridicule or laugh at what you say, or they may reject it outright.
Free speech doesn’t include the right to be listened to.
People who don’t desire to hear your opinion can hang up on you, block you on social media, change the channel, close the browser tab. Free speech doesn’t give you the right to bombard people with harassing messages or otherwise force them to pay attention to you against their will.
And free speech doesn’t include the right to suffer no consequences whatsoever for your expressed opinions.
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1 year ago ::
May 30, 2012 - 1:41PM
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Think I should have been more explicit about that?
Most of the newer posters wouldnt know what you speak of nushae, granted your statement wasnt meant for them anyways. or was it? 
This remains to be interesting for sure .
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1 year ago ::
May 30, 2012 - 1:50PM
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Hey, we used to have a thread called 'Is the server up?' with about a million replies 
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1 year ago ::
May 30, 2012 - 2:12PM
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People forget that Blizzard had a very difficult WoW launch. I remember spending a lot of time wishing I could be playing WoW when it had just come out. But then after a few months, things got better. The last few years of WoW have been trouble-free as far as I know. Then again, I quit playing after 2 years of WoW. Finally some better games came along.
Diablo 3 has been a real mess. I am able to play most of the time now but there are always issues. I play hardcore (death = your guy & gear is gone forever) and not only do I have to be careful not to die, I have to hope Blizzard doesn't have server problems that cause me to die!
Yes, Blizzard has gotten a very good reputation in the last few years after successful launches of so many WoW expansions, Starcraft 2, etc. But I felt fairly ripped off when I bought D3 and I couldn't even play the game for the first couple of days of owning it. I certainly could have gotten a refund, but I wanted to wait and play the game once it was working.
We don't need a paragon of perfection (a.k.a. 2011 Blizzard) to compare WoTC to. We just need to feel like we are getting our money's worth. I've played four big events since AVR pre-release and things were close enough to problem-free. I have gotten used to all of the little glitches that would normally upset me if I was discovering them for the first time. I feel like I got my money's worth. I "only" ended up down $15 after two pre-releases. That's got to be a record!
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1 year ago ::
May 30, 2012 - 5:50PM
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I still remember the dark times when refund requests were frequent and the server would crash a lot whenever a new set came out. Personally, I really appreciate the current level of stability. I just hope the next version of Magic Online is as stable as this one.
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1 year ago ::
May 30, 2012 - 6:34PM
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Date Joined:
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Yes, Diablo 3 is easily the worst game Blizzard has published in the last 15 years. That doesn't make Wizards any better, though.
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1 year ago ::
May 30, 2012 - 7:07PM
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Ill take v2 over what we have now. Leagues, a buying AND selling board, ratings, cooler avatar blingy stuff. Just give it card zoom and up the trade limit!
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1 year ago ::
May 30, 2012 - 8:18PM
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- Volunteer Community Lead
- blame me for the weather
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Ill take v2 over what we have now. Leagues, a buying AND selling board, ratings, cooler avatar blingy stuff. Just give it card zoom and up the trade limit!
You're nuts.
Magic Online Volunteer Community Lead. • Also assisting the Paper Magic area for the time being. I'm trying to make my official VCL posts in purpleYou posted saying my thread was moved/locked but nothing happened. Spoiler:
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Unfortunately, VCLs do not currently have the tools necessary to take moderation actions directly. VCLs submit their actions to ORCs, who then actually perform the action. This processing can take between a few minutes and several hours, depending on how busy/attentive the ORCs are. If you see something that needs VCL attention, please use this thread (MTGO) or this thread (paper) to make a request and a VCL will look at it as soon as possible. CoC violations should be reported to Customer Service using the "report post" button. Please do not disrupt the thread by making requests of either kind in-thread.General MTGO FAQYes, the Shuffler is Random!The definitive thread on the Magic Online shuffler. Magic Math Made EasyDraw probabilities, Swiss results, Elo ratings and booster EV Event EV CalculatorCalculate the EV for any event with a fixed number of rounds and prizes based on record Dual means two. A duel is a battle between two people. Lands that make two colors of mana are dual lands. A normal Magic battle is a duel. Thanks to PhoenixLAU for the awesome avatar! Quotables Spoiler:
Show
"While a picture is worth a thousand words, each lolcat actually produces a negative wordcount." -Ith
"I think "Highly Informed Sarcasm" should be our Magic Online General motto." -Ith
"Sorry, but this thread seems just like spam. TT is for off-topic discussion, not no-topic discussion."
-WizO_Kwai_Chang
"Stop that! If you're not careful, rational thinking may catch on!" -Sax
"... the only word i see that fits is incompitant." -Mr44 (sic)
"You know a thread is gonna be locked when it gets to the hexadecimal stage." -Gathion
"It's a good gig" - Gleemax
"I tell people often, if you guys want to rant, you've certainly got the right to (provided you obey CoC/ToS stuff), and I don't even really blame you. But if you see something you think needs changing a well thought-out, constructive post does more to make that happen." - Worth Wollpert
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