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What are people's thoughts on forming an Heirloom League for the Commander format?

Based on the official ban list, here are so far the only 5 cards that would be banned:

Limited resources

Biorhythmn

Coalition victory

Protean hulk

Sway of the stars

All Heirloom price Legends are fair game* (the only banned generals are Braids Cabal Minion, Erayo, and Rofellos.)

The normal Heirloom ban list probably applies as well, however I'm sure this can be edited based on the differences in the format:

*Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir: Can't be used as either the General or be used in the maindeck

Argentum Armor: Can be fetched with Godo, bandit Warlord, as well as some other artifact tutors. Might be removed, but gonna probably keep because it can be so easily attached and abused with Godo. *Note* Godo is currently not Heirloom legal, but next rotation I'm fairly certain he will be again.

Hypergenesis: This can probably be removed, since it's deadliest in a dedicated Hypergenesis deck with cascade. It essentially loses all of its effectiveness in Commander.

Zuran Orb: Can probably be removed. Commander is infamous for having a higher starting life total, as well as having more abuseable ways of gaining life.

I'm going to look through the Heirloom list and see if I can find other cards that are Heirloom legal and yet still too abuseable.

If this were to be formed, do we want it to be casual or competitive/cutthroat? Do we want scheduled best two out of three tournaments in 1v1 or freeform multiplayer where any Heirloom player with a Commander deck can challenge another for a solo or multi game? We can create some casual guidelines (for example, no mass land destruction) if need be.

Post your thoughts on if this is a good idea, and any suggestions.

I like the idea.  Never really had a chance to play the Commander format and I reckon this would be quite cool.  I think for starters it would be good to make a list of the potential Commanders in the Heirloom format, just for ease of reference for anyone who wanted to play.  

Not sure how you would want to work the league but I think the kind of cards you'd want to play would vary widely on whether it was 1 vs 1 Commander or multiplayer.  Either way I reckon it could be a fun format provided you could get some interest going.

In terms of card banning, it might come down to individual taste.  Mass land destruction such as Wildfire and Destructive Force might not be considered in the spirit of Commander. 

Here's the full list of Commanders are available in Heirloom (based on current MTGO prices; had to check using that. Some, Like Godo, aren't currently legal in the current rotation but will likely be at some point.)

Note: Some of these Generals are 100% useless in EDH. For example: Mishra, all of the Myojins, Phage the Untouchable, etc.

 

Mythic

Kresh the Bloodbraided

Malfegor

Mayael the Anima

Ruhan of the Fomori

Sedris, the Traitor King

Sharuum the Hegemon

Ghave, Guru of Spores

 

Rare

Adamaro, First to Desire

Adun Oakenshield

Agrus Kos, Wojek Veteran

Akroma, Angel of Fury

Akuta, Born of Ash

Ambassador Laquatus

Angus Mackenzie

Anowon, the Ruin Sage

Arashi, the Sky Asunder

Arcades Sabboth

Arcanis the Omnipotent

Arcum Dagsson

Ashling the Pilgrim

Asmira, Holy Avenger

Autumn Willow

Ayumi, the Last Visitor

Azami, Lady of Scrolls

Baron Sengir

Barrin, Master Wizard

Baru, Fist of Krosa

Ben-Ben, Akki Hermit

Blind Seer

Borborygmos

Bounteous Kirin

Braids, Conjurer Adept

Brigid, Hero of Kinsbaile

Brion Stoutarm

Celestial Kirin

Chisei, Heart of Oceans

Cho-Manno, Revolutionary

Chorus of the Conclave

Chromium

Circu, Dimir Lobotomist

Cloudhoof Kirin

Commander Greven il-Vec

Crovax the Cursed

Crovax, Ascendant Hero

Dakkon Blackblade

Dong Zhou, the Tyrant

Dosan the Falling Leaf

Dralnu, Lich Lord

Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief

Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder

Eron the Relentless

Experiment Kraj

Ezuri, Renegade Leader

Fumiko the Lowblood

Gabriel Angelfire

Gallowbraid

Garza Zol, Plague Queen

Gerrard Capashen

Ghost Council of Orzhova

Godo, Bandit Warlord

Grandmother Sengir

Greel, Mind Raker

Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer

Gwendlyn Di Corci

Hakim, Loreweaver

Halfdane

Hazezon Tamar

He Who Hungers

Heartless Hidetsugu

Heidar, Rimewind Master

Hikari, Twilight Guardian

Hisoka, Minamo Sensei

Hivis of the Scale

Hokori, Dust Drinker

Homura, Human Ascendant

Horde of Notions

Horobi, Death's Wail

Hua Tuo, Honored Physician

Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician

Ihsan's Shade

Iizuka the Ruthless

Iname as One

Iname, Death Aspect

Iname, Life Aspect

Infernal Kirin

Intet, the Dreamer

Isamaru, Hound of Konda

Isao, Enlightened Bushi

Ishi-Ishi, Akki Crackshot

Isperia the Inscrutable

Ith, High Arcanist

Iwamori of the Open Fist

Jacques le Vert

Jasmine Boreal

Jaya Ballard, Task Mage

Jedit Ojanen of Efrava

Jiwari, the Earth Aflame

Jolrael, Empress of Beasts

Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer

Jugan, the Rising Star

Kaervek the Merciless

Kaho, Minamo Historian

Kamahl, Pit Fighter

Kaysa

Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs

Kemba, Kha Regent

Kentaro, the Smiling Cat

Kiku, Night's Flower

Kiyomaro, First to Stand

Kodama of the Center Tree

Kodama of the North Tree

Kodama of the South Tree

Konda, Lord of Eiganjo

Kongming, Sleeping Dragon

Kumano, Master Yamabushi

Kuon, Ogre Ascendant

Kuro, Pitlord

Kyoki, Sanity's Eclipse

Latulla, Keldon Overseer

Lim-Dûl the Necromancer

Linessa, Zephyr Mage

Liu Bei, Lord of Shu

Lord of Tresserhorn

Lovisa Coldeyes

Lu Bu, Master-at-Arms

Lyzolda, the Blood Witch

Mangara of Corondor

Mannichi, the Fevered Dream

Maraxus of Keld

Marrow-Gnawer

Márton Stromgald

Masako the Humorless

Masumaro, First to Live

Melira, Sylvok Outcast

Meloku the Clouded Mirror

Meng Huo, Barbarian King

Merieke Ri Berit

Mirri the Cursed

Mirri, Cat Warrior

Mishra, Artificer Prodigy

Mistform Ultimus

Molimo, Maro-Sorcerer

Momir Vig, Simic Visionary

Morinfen

Multani, Maro-Sorcerer

Myojin of Cleansing Fire

Myojin of Infinite Rage

Myojin of Life's Web

Myojin of Night's Reach

Myojin of Seeing Winds

Nath of the Gilt-Leaf

Nicol Bolas

Norin the Wary

Numot, the Devastator

Opal-Eye, Konda's Yojimbo

Orim, Samite Healer

Oriss, Samite Guardian

Oros, the Avenger

Oyobi, Who Split the Heavens

Palladia-Mors

Patron of the Akki

Patron of the Kitsune

Patron of the Moon

Patron of the Nezumi

Phage the Untouchable

Phelddagrif

Purraj of Urborg

Radha, Heir to Keld

Radiant, Archangel

Rakdos the Defiler

Rakka Mar

Rashida Scalebane

Rasputin Dreamweaver

Razia, Boros Archangel

Reki, the History of Kamigawa

Rhys the Exiled

Rohgahh of Kher Keep

Rosheen Meanderer

Rubinia Soulsinger

Ryusei, the Falling Star

Saffi Eriksdotter

Sakiko, Mother of Summer

Sasaya, Orochi Ascendant

Savra, Queen of the Golgari

Scion of the Ur-Dragon

Seizan, Perverter of Truth

Sek'Kuar, Deathkeeper

Sekki, Seasons' Guide

Selenia, Dark Angel

Sensei Golden-Tail

Seshiro the Anointed

Shimatsu the Bloodcloaked

Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep

Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker

Shisato, Whispering Hunter

Shizuko, Caller of Autumn

Sidar Jabari

Sisters of Stone Death

Skeleton Ship

Skyfire Kirin

Sol'kanar the Swamp King

Soramaro, First to Dream

Starke of Rath

Stonebrow, Krosan Hero

Sun Quan, Lord of Wu

Sygg, River Guide

Szadek, Lord of Secrets

Takeno, Samurai General

Taniwha

Tarox Bladewing

Telim'Tor

Teneb, the Harvester

Tetsuo Umezawa

Teysa, Orzhov Scion

Thada Adel, Acquisitor

The Unspeakable

Thelon of Havenwood

Tibor and Lumia

Tivadar of Thorn

Tolsimir Wolfblood

Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar

Toshiro Umezawa

Tuktuk the Explorer

Ulasht, the Hate Seed

Uyo, Silent Prophet

Vaevictis Asmadi

Verdeloth the Ancient

Vhati il-Dal

Vorosh, the Hunter

Wort, Boggart Auntie

Wort, the Raidmother

Wydwen, the Biting Gale

Xira Arien

Yomiji, Who Bars the Way

Yukora, the Prisoner

Zo-Zu the Punisher

Zuberi, Golden Feather

 

Uncommon

Axelrod Gunnarson

Bartel Runeaxe

Boris Devilboon

Brothers Yamazaki

Guan Yu, Sainted Warrior

Hunding Gjornersen

Kei Takahashi

Lady Caleria

Lady Evangela

Livonya Silone

Lu Meng, Wu General

Lu Xun, Scholar General

Marhault Elsdragon

Nagao, Bound by Honor

Nebuchadnezzar

Pavel Maliki

Princess Lucrezia

Ragnar

Ramses Overdark

Reveka, Wizard Savant

Riven Turnbull

Sachi, Daughter of Seshiro

Sosuke, Son of Seshiro

Stangg

Sun Ce, Young Conquerer

Sunastian Falconer

Tenza, Godo's Maul

Tor Wauki

Tuknir Deathlock

Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed

Zhang Fei, Fierce Warrior

 

Common

Barktooth Warbeard

Jedit Ojanen

Jerrard of the Closed Fist

Lady Orca

Ramirez DePietro

Sir Shandlar of Eberyn

Sivitri Scarzam

The Lady of the Mountain

Tobias Andrion

Torsten Von Ursus

I would love to see any knd of Heirloom League, great idea!

I am all for it, would love to play a multiplayer format again

I don't know if Heirlooms website supports this. If not I would be glad to host this event at www.Gatherling.com for you. You would just need to designate someone to host. Although right now Gatherling.com does not support Multi-player formats I would be happy to develop it if there is interest. So in the beginning you would have to do Commander Dules only.

I've been wanting to try out a Commander event for a while, but most of the ones I go to are way too competitive. I would love to play Heirloom Commander.

(Bragging time: I floated this idea to Naproxen last year and he turned me down. :P) 

After some talks with Chrismh77, we decided that to start out, the banned list will only be the 5 from the normal ban list, and Teferi will be banned as a general, but useable in the main deck. This decision came from figuring that any card that's legal enough for normal Commander is good enough for us- this was mostly in considering the mass land destruction spells, such as Impending Disaster, Thoughts of Ruin, Jokulhaups, etc. I'm keeping a mental note of a 'to watch' ban list involving the 'general tuck spells', aka cards like Condemn, Spin into Myth, Oblation and the like, simply because with them it's way to easy to shuffle someone's General into their library and completely hose their entire strategy.

At this point, I haven't encountered any Heirloom Commander besides Teferi that needs to be banned. The reason Teferi is banned is twofold. 1) He's banned in normal Heirloom play, and being the general it'd be way too easy to always have him and protect him with countermagic, and 2) more importantly he has a very nasty combo with Knowledge Pool, where he prevents all opponents from playing any spells for the rest of the game. Even with Heirloom restrictions, Chris and I found too many tutor cards that enable one to search for Knowledge Pool, and with Teferi out it can't even be countered. It's possible to squish this combo into other decks, but it isn't going to happen as consistently as when Teferi is the General.

I'm not sure yet if Gatherling should be used for it since I don't know if it'll be an official league with official tournaments yet, or just something for fun that Heirloom players can do in their spare time whenever fellow Heirloom players are online. Like "hey it's 10 p.m. I see 3 Heirloom buddies that have Heirloom Commander decks, let's make a match for funsies"

One thing I've found from playing my beta Heirloom Commander decks against non-Heirloom ones.... the worst cards and deck strategies I hate facing against are too expensive and therefore won't be included. But against the more casual decks, I still had a fighting chance. So it's not like Heirloom Commander decks are terrible.