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1 year ago  ::  May 03, 2012 - 1:17AM #31
nushae
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May 2, 2012 -- 7:20PM, Lackeos wrote:

Cube is simply the most fun magic format of all time.




It's a draft variant. I detest draft. I rest my case.

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1 year ago  ::  May 03, 2012 - 1:46AM #32
Lackeos
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May 2, 2012 -- 7:46PM, gabochidillo wrote:

but I think wizard's is doing the right thing by keeping it an exciting and fresh thing instead of letting it become the norm. Try eating nothing but your favourite food for all your meals for a full week and you'll see what I mean



That's ridiculous.  If that was the right play with cube, then it would be the right play with modern, extended, classic, singleton, prismatic, standard, block constructed, legacy, pauper, ISD draft, core set draft, and so on.  Yet all of these formats are accessible around the clock.  Cube is the only format that isn't.  When Wizards phases EVERY format in and out the way they do cube, I'll accept the rationale that they need to do it with cube also.  Otherwise, no, it's an invalid argument.

May 3, 2012 -- 1:17AM, nushae wrote:

May 2, 2012 -- 7:20PM, Lackeos wrote:

Cube is simply the most fun magic format of all time.




It's a draft variant. I detest draft. I rest my case.



Cube queues are firing twice as much as every other limited and constructed queue combined.  Somehow, its popularity reigns supreme despite you and your case.

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1 year ago  ::  May 03, 2012 - 7:00AM #33
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May 3, 2012 -- 1:46AM, Lackeos wrote:

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Cube queues are firing twice as much as every other limited and constructed queue combined.  Somehow, its popularity reigns supreme despite you and your case.



This kind of statement really needs data  to back it up.

Guess what? Chicken butt.

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1 year ago  ::  May 03, 2012 - 3:42PM #34
Lackeos
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May 3, 2012 -- 7:00AM, tempesteye wrote:

May 3, 2012 -- 1:46AM, Lackeos wrote:

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Cube queues are firing twice as much as every other limited and constructed queue combined.  Somehow, its popularity reigns supreme despite you and your case.



This kind of statement really needs data  to back it up.



Last night when I posted this, there were 130 cube drafts firing 70 everything else in the same span of time.

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1 year ago  ::  May 03, 2012 - 4:18PM #35
pcjr
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I think things have slowed down a bit. I just counted:
  • 26 Cube
  • 33 TPF
  • 50 DKA

Is there an easy way to count how many rows in the "Active and Completed Events" page?

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1 year ago  ::  May 03, 2012 - 8:24PM #36
Lackeos
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May 3, 2012 -- 4:18PM, pcjr wrote:

I think things have slowed down a bit. I just counted:

  • 26 Cube
  • 33 TPF
  • 50 DKA

Is there an easy way to count how many rows in the "Active and Completed Events" page?



I know of no easy way that wouldn't also lead to some inaccuracy (i.e. measuring the height of 10 rows, which could easily be screwed-up).  But you can sort by description or structure as a method of convenience.

I don't know what you did to come-up with those numbers, or what window of time you counted them in, but I just counted all active and completed events that are displayed in the limited queues section and my count was:

187 Cube
64 ISD
33 TPF
10 M12
2 SoM

I understand that you counted 4 hours before I did, but the ratios seem ridiculously off.  Not sure if there was a systematic error in your counting (i.e. if you sorted by description and only counted the swiss Cube queues or something) or if the time of day factor really affects the ratio that much.

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1 year ago  ::  May 03, 2012 - 9:11PM #37
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May 3, 2012 -- 8:24PM, Lackeos wrote:

I understand that you counted 4 hours before I did, but the ratios seem ridiculously off.  Not sure if there was a systematic error in your counting (i.e. if you sorted by description and only counted the swiss Cube queues or something) or if the time of day factor really affects the ratio that much.


Something may have been wrong with my counting. I sorted by Structure. More TPF than Cube seems kind of odd. I just counted again and got numbers similar to yours.

Here are Cube drafts by start time:

  1. 6-7PM 28
  2. 7-8PM 76
  3. 8-9PM 70

The 6-7PM count seems kind of low. There was one draft listed as having started before 6pm, so I don't think they were being culled. Maybe there is a big surge in the evening? I'll try to remember to count again at the same time tomorrow.
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1 year ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 10:37AM #38
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As of right now, there are:
  • 124 Cube
  • 40 ISD
  • 29 TPF
  • 5 M12
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1 year ago  ::  May 07, 2012 - 7:05PM #39
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May 3, 2012 -- 9:11PM, pcjr wrote:

The 6-7PM count seems kind of low. There was one draft listed as having started before 6pm, so I don't think they were being culled. Maybe there is a big surge in the evening? I'll try to remember to count again at the same time tomorrow.



The culling is based on the end time of the event, not the start time.  

The reason the 6-7 count was lower is because the faster drafts had been culled, but not the ones that went to time every round.

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1 year ago  ::  May 07, 2012 - 9:24PM #40
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127 Cube
59 ISD
38 TPF
12 M12
2 SoM
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