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1 year ago ::
Mar 16, 2012 - 7:59PM
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I ask why is there not a shuffle button n this game , so many times i get mana screwed, if i shuffle myself its my faught .
right now i blame it on you you are deciding the draw and costing me money. you need a shuffle but and a cutt button why not throw some more of your crappy randomnazation into the fro???
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1 year ago ::
Mar 16, 2012 - 8:08PM
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Firstly, please work on your spelling. Secondly, you aren't allowed to shuffle or cut any time you want (this is what it sounds like you're suggesting) in part because it would imbalance certain cards, such as Oracle of Mul Daya  or any other card that lets you know what's on top of your library. I'm sure others can go into more detail if you want.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 16, 2012 - 10:16PM
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Also, it wouldn't help. You'd be exactly as likely to get poor draws after shuffling as you would before. The times when your shuffling prevented bad draws would be exactly balanced out in the long run by the times when it created them.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 16, 2012 - 11:14PM
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Also, it wouldn't help. You'd be exactly as likely to get poor draws after shuffling as you would before. The times when your shuffling prevented bad draws would be exactly balanced out in the long run by the times when it created them.
Or to put it another way:
You have a 1/N chance of drawing a card you need before you shuffle and a 1/N chance of drawing a card you need after you shuffle. Shuffling does nothing except maybe psycological.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 16, 2012 - 11:58PM
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Yeah, what you guys said.  I had the same thought, just wasn't sure how to articulate it.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 17, 2012 - 12:26AM
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I think he might be talking about mtgo
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1 year ago ::
Mar 17, 2012 - 12:33AM
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I think he might be talking about mtgo
That's even more likely to be false though for the reasons stated. While I'm not sure if there's any legitimate bugs or issues with the game's shuffler (I doubt it given how easy it is to randomize something via a computer program), if there's not then you could consider it perfect shuffling - much better than almost any player would do in real life in any case.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 17, 2012 - 2:44AM
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I think he might be talking about mtgo
That's even more likely to be false though for the reasons stated. While I'm not sure if there's any legitimate bugs or issues with the game's shuffler (I doubt it given how easy it is to randomize something via a computer program), if there's not then you could consider it perfect shuffling - much better than almost any player would do in real life in any case.
People tend to assume the shuffler's bugged for pretty much that exact reason. For example, consider the thread on the MTGO forums explaining WHY people falsely assume the shuffler is broken because it's much closer to true randomness than they're used to, and how people post IN THAT THREAD claiming that the shuffler is broken. Superstition is a powerful force.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 17, 2012 - 7:05AM
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Shuffling doesn't increase your chance of drawing [CARDNAME HERE]. If your deck is randomized, extra shuffles will never have an effect on your draw, ever.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 17, 2012 - 11:49AM
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I thought this is why cards like Ponder  and Brutalizer Exarch  exist. They're a classy way to break the randomness of the shuffle or increase the overall likelyhood of getting what you need (or getting rid of what your opponent needs.)
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