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1 year ago ::
Dec 15, 2011 - 12:17AM
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i just watched a video of some guy named alex fettucini and basically the guy takes some random kid and plays 3 lands in one turn probably ramping into some fatty next turn for 7
an the kid doesn't whats going on so he says yeah its fine but the one dude say no thats not fine and alex bertunicci did even doulbe check he said double explore and he knew he played too many lands
this gy was on the pro tour an got tons of prizes from people that he stole from cheating
this is why no respects your game WOTC u gave prizes to this guy? this pro tour player taking advantage of kids
thats not right
cut the prizes for these cheaters bring the prizes online where they belong where you cant cheat to win like mr alex bertuccini
this happened to me at rise of eldrazi someone tried to play 2 lands on me and cast hes 11 drop ulmalogg or something i was like no dude we are not on that turn and u just tried to cheat me and its hard to see with rise of eldrazi cuz its hard know what turn ur on and basically the guy cheated an i won the game after we backed it up but he woulda won if he had gotten away with it
this is why i dont play IRL Magic cheaters play 2 lands a turn casting an 11 drop a turn early an ppl being too dumb to figure it out
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1 year ago ::
Dec 15, 2011 - 2:49AM
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Date Joined:
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If this happens to you in paper magic you have 2 choices. Do nothing, or call a judge. Calling a judge ensures fairness for all because the judge isn't going to just agree with you, he will want to see logically laid out proof.
I saw that video tape of Alex and he looked squirrely but I wasn't sure it was "bleary eyed haven't slept in 18 hours" squirrely or "Oh @^$^ someone caught me!" squirrely. Both seemed feesible. Never heard of him before so I assume he's relatively new to the PT if he is a "pro." Either that or Im just out of the loop which is very likely lol.
In any case for every cheater there are 1,000 straight players so I wouldn't be calling WOTC out for this one. It wasn't even done on their time, though as a sanctioned event there should have been a judge called to swing the banhammer. The reason this isn't more of a problem is that judges are trained to deal with cheaters and typically it does not take long for someone to become DQed after being caught.
The advice you should follow when dealing with someone who seems to be playing shady is call a judge over to watch at the very least and to inspect any complaint you might have for validity. Keep in mind this is double edged because many players who play semi pro or lower skill levels tend to break rules without even realizing it. A judge seeing that won't know the difference between intentional and mistake so be sure your own stuff is straight.
Winter.Wolf
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1 year ago ::
Dec 15, 2011 - 8:15AM
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Date Joined:
Nov 29, 2007
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Never heard of him before
A quick synopsis.
He won some big tournament that a big card reseller ran, winning $10,000 and a set of power 9. Soon after, an ex-buddy blogged an exposee of his cheating based on a number of publicly available videos. An outcry ensued on a popular magic forum, following which the card reseller issued a statement, viz, the matter is currently under investigation by the DCI.
The big deal is that although suspicions were raised on several occasions, e.g. some pod casters spotted pre-sideboarded cards at a high value tourny, nothing was ever done at the time of any alleged offense. Apparently this player is very personable and has amazing manual dexterity.
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1 year ago ::
Dec 15, 2011 - 8:21AM
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- Volunteer Community Lead
- blame me for the weather
Date Joined:
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For those who haven't read the piece yet, here it is
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1 year ago ::
Dec 15, 2011 - 10:37AM
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So when is he eligible for induction into the hall of fame? 
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1 year ago ::
Dec 15, 2011 - 12:14PM
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- Volunteer Community Lead
- blame me for the weather
Date Joined:
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Update: Bertoncini banned 18 months.
Magic Online Volunteer Community Lead. • Also assisting the Paper Magic area for the time being. I'm trying to make my official VCL posts in purpleYou posted saying my thread was moved/locked but nothing happened. Spoiler:
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Unfortunately, VCLs do not currently have the tools necessary to take moderation actions directly. VCLs submit their actions to ORCs, who then actually perform the action. This processing can take between a few minutes and several hours, depending on how busy/attentive the ORCs are. If you see something that needs VCL attention, please use this thread (MTGO) or this thread (paper) to make a request and a VCL will look at it as soon as possible. CoC violations should be reported to Customer Service using the "report post" button. Please do not disrupt the thread by making requests of either kind in-thread.General MTGO FAQYes, the Shuffler is Random!The definitive thread on the Magic Online shuffler. Magic Math Made EasyDraw probabilities, Swiss results, Elo ratings and booster EV Event EV CalculatorCalculate the EV for any event with a fixed number of rounds and prizes based on record Dual means two. A duel is a battle between two people. Lands that make two colors of mana are dual lands. A normal Magic battle is a duel. Thanks to PhoenixLAU for the awesome avatar! Quotables Spoiler:
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"While a picture is worth a thousand words, each lolcat actually produces a negative wordcount." -Ith
"I think "Highly Informed Sarcasm" should be our Magic Online General motto." -Ith
"Sorry, but this thread seems just like spam. TT is for off-topic discussion, not no-topic discussion."
-WizO_Kwai_Chang
"Stop that! If you're not careful, rational thinking may catch on!" -Sax
"... the only word i see that fits is incompitant." -Mr44 (sic)
"You know a thread is gonna be locked when it gets to the hexadecimal stage." -Gathion
"It's a good gig" - Gleemax
"I tell people often, if you guys want to rant, you've certainly got the right to (provided you obey CoC/ToS stuff), and I don't even really blame you. But if you see something you think needs changing a well thought-out, constructive post does more to make that happen." - Worth Wollpert
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1 year ago ::
Dec 15, 2011 - 3:06PM
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For those who haven't read the piece yet, here it is
Thanks Bubba, That makes things a lot clearer for me. Glad to hear the DCI figured him out.
Winter.Wolf
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1 year ago ::
Dec 15, 2011 - 8:18PM
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if you truly believe anyone in the pro tour hall of fame, or even the pro tour hasnt purposely cheated at 1 point or another....you probaly shouldnt be playing paper magic seriously
EDIT: and just in case your wondering cheating apprently does pay....alex gets to keep his 10K in winnings and power 9
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1 year ago ::
Dec 16, 2011 - 4:06PM
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if you truly believe anyone in the pro tour hall of fame, or even the pro tour hasnt purposely cheated at 1 point or another....you probaly shouldnt be playing paper magic seriously
EDIT: and just in case your wondering cheating apprently does pay....alex gets to keep his 10K in winnings and power 9
NO! He does not get to keep his winnings of the invitational or PotY.
www.starcitygames.com/magic/standard/232...
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1 year ago ::
Dec 16, 2011 - 4:32PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 15, 2009
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if you truly believe anyone in the pro tour hall of fame, or even the pro tour hasnt purposely cheated at 1 point or another....you probaly shouldnt be playing paper magic seriously
EDIT: and just in case your wondering cheating apprently does pay....alex gets to keep his 10K in winnings and power 9
Does this go along with the saying "If you're not cheating, you're not trying?"
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