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2 years ago  ::  Apr 07, 2011 - 1:34PM #1
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Ok so Mike from classicquarter had the idea to do a benefit for Erik's son Bruce to raise money for a college fund.  The idea is everyone that donates $10 or more to Bruce's college fund would get entry into the tournament.  The problem is we are going to need to do this ourselves so it might require some team work.  I can setup all of the business sides of things such as creating the fund to be donated to, advertising, etc. but I'm not sure how we can run a tournament of this size(assuming there is a lot of interest).  I am willing to supply the prizes as are a few other dealers/players I've spoken to so I think we can get the prize pool large enough to attract a lot of attention and hopefully a lot of donations for his son.  Does anyone know of a way that we could run a player run tournament of that calibur of have any ideas as to how this could work?

I'm of course open to all other new ideas.   
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 07, 2011 - 2:11PM #2
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Apr 7, 2011 -- 1:34PM, wilmheath wrote:

Ok so Mike from classicquarter had the idea to do a benefit for Erik's son Bruce to raise money for a college fund.  The idea is everyone that donates $10 or more to Bruce's college fund would get entry into the tournament.  The problem is we are going to need to do this ourselves so it might require some team work.  I can setup all of the business sides of things such as creating the fund to be donated to, advertising, etc. but I'm not sure how we can run a tournament of this size(assuming there is a lot of interest).  I am willing to supply the prizes as are a few other dealers/players I've spoken to so I think we can get the prize pool large enough to attract a lot of attention and hopefully a lot of donations for his son.  Does anyone know of a way that we could run a player run tournament of that calibur of have any ideas as to how this could work?

I'm of course open to all other new ideas.   



The structure should be easy enough to handle with DCI-R. Seems like the big hurdle is making sure everyone's deck is the same every round. Maybe a Momir event to make it a non-issue?

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 07, 2011 - 2:14PM #3
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With a little assitance from WotC, this could be easy...

WotC creates an invite-only constructed event. You provide them with a list of who has donated. People who just want to donate, but don't want to play don't have to join (I'd fall into this category).

After the event, you can see who placed how and "award" prizes.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 07, 2011 - 2:38PM #4
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Apr 7, 2011 -- 2:11PM, bubba0077 wrote:

Apr 7, 2011 -- 1:34PM, wilmheath wrote:

Ok so Mike from classicquarter had the idea to do a benefit for Erik's son Bruce to raise money for a college fund.  The idea is everyone that donates $10 or more to Bruce's college fund would get entry into the tournament.  The problem is we are going to need to do this ourselves so it might require some team work.  I can setup all of the business sides of things such as creating the fund to be donated to, advertising, etc. but I'm not sure how we can run a tournament of this size(assuming there is a lot of interest).  I am willing to supply the prizes as are a few other dealers/players I've spoken to so I think we can get the prize pool large enough to attract a lot of attention and hopefully a lot of donations for his son.  Does anyone know of a way that we could run a player run tournament of that calibur of have any ideas as to how this could work?

I'm of course open to all other new ideas.   



The structure should be easy enough to handle with DCI-R. Seems like the big hurdle is making sure everyone's deck is the same every round. Maybe a Momir event to make it a non-issue?




I agree with what bubba said.
We use DCI-R all the time for Pauper PRE's.
You would also need someone to host such an event.
Unless WOTC wants to set it up as pcjr suggested.

I also would fall into the group of those not able to play but would donate, depending on the time.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 07, 2011 - 6:48PM #5
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I'd be happy to make a donation, and possibly playing, depending on the timing.

If WotC isn't going to host the tournament, with a two week lead time I could code a PHP script that could handle pairings.  It would save the trouble of one person typing the results in and typing the pairings back.

It wouldn't help with keeping decks consistant between rounds though. 
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 07, 2011 - 7:27PM #6
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If WotC can make a private PE for channelfireball to do one of their "All Star" 8 view drafts, I don't see why they couldn't do this. You should probably ask a question.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 07, 2011 - 8:56PM #7
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Apr 7, 2011 -- 6:48PM, BatDwarf wrote:

I'd be happy to make a donation, and possibly playing, depending on the timing.

If WotC isn't going to host the tournament, with a two week lead time I could code a PHP script that could handle pairings.  It would save the trouble of one person typing the results in and typing the pairings back.

It wouldn't help with keeping decks consistant between rounds though. 



I was thinking of just printing the pairings to PDF and posting a link. Seems simpler.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 08, 2011 - 4:23AM #8
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I quite like this idea, count me in.
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 08, 2011 - 4:55AM #9
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Apr 7, 2011 -- 1:34PM, wilmheath wrote:

Ok so Mike from classicquarter had the idea to do a benefit for Erik's son Bruce to raise money for a college fund.  The idea is everyone that donates $10 or more to Bruce's college fund would get entry into the tournament.  The problem is we are going to need to do this ourselves so it might require some team work.  I can setup all of the business sides of things such as creating the fund to be donated to, advertising, etc. but I'm not sure how we can run a tournament of this size(assuming there is a lot of interest).  I am willing to supply the prizes as are a few other dealers/players I've spoken to so I think we can get the prize pool large enough to attract a lot of attention and hopefully a lot of donations for his son.  Does anyone know of a way that we could run a player run tournament of that calibur of have any ideas as to how this could work?

I'm of course open to all other new ideas.   





Heath, pm or email me, we may be interested in making a prize pool donation.

Also DCI-R is probably the easiest way to do this IF WOTC wont assist.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 08, 2011 - 5:19AM #10
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Apr 8, 2011 -- 4:55AM, fatguy_poolshark wrote:

Also DCI-R is probably the easiest way to do this IF WOTC wont assist.




DCI-R will make the pairings work.  But really... in order to make this a worthwhile benefit tournament, there is going to have to be big prizes and a LOT of people.  The largest PRE I know of was run back in '07  - over 100 people showed up and it was a mad house.  I'm pretty sure we'd eclipse that number by a large margin

So not everyone who would join the tournment would be as experienced board regulars her in how to behave in a PRE.  Imagine going through 100 games in the Anything goes room to make sure they were all timed?  Or that someone didn't start a single game instaead of a match?  That says nothing of the possibility of cheating, and if the prizes were as big as I think they would get, that's a very real concern.  If the top prize was $10 card with 16 people playing, cheating isn't much of a worry.  If it was a $200 card with hundreds of people playing, it is - no matter how well you run things in the background...

We've asked for WoTC's assistance on an invitational style tournament, and I'm still waiting to hear back from them.  The concerns, I'm told, are about corpoarte legality, because I'm 100% sure if it was solely up to Worth we'd have been playing in it sometime just before Destiny release events.

If only the client allowed you to start your own 0K, 0Fee Tournaments like we've been asking for (like since forever), we wouldn't be having this conversation. But it doesn't - so we wait.


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BTW - One of the other ideas was to use the old Auction software on CQ to Auction off cards in a charity auction.  This idea has great logistics but poor optics - that is to say lots of people would play in a benefit tourney but A lot less people are likely to bid on cards and go through the CQ sign-up process to do so.


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