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3 years ago ::
Nov 06, 2009 - 1:24PM
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My apologies if I missed the recent thread on this subject. I didn't see it. This is regarding the previews about the new Magic Online interface. For example, see here: www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/18254_T... Honestly, "3.5" looks like an improvement, but I don't really care that much about there being a red zone, an in-interface notepad, or how it uses arrows to show targetting. Mostly what I want now is a UI that runs smoothly, as well as soom GOOD new UI features like an auto-sell feature, or a quick count of how many cards you have of a specific name in trades, etc. It seems to me that WotC largely misses the point with Magic Online. Yes, the current interface is a problem, but a large part of the problem is that it's slow and buggy, and that it lacks a lot of really useful features. I am glad that they're helping the UI get out of the way, but I see no evidence that they've really been working on the other stuff. MTGO in Silverlight or Flash is probably going to be slower than MTGO 3, unless their programmers are much better than they were when they made MTGO 3. With WotC's track record in this area, I am not getting my hopes up or expecting much. Honestly, I would not be surprised if the new MTGO is even worse than MTGO 3.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 06, 2009 - 2:34PM
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MTGO in Silverlight or Flash is probably going to be slower than MTGO 3, unless their programmers are much better than they were when they made MTGO 3.
With WotC's track record in this area, I am not getting my hopes up or expecting much. Honestly, I would not be surprised if the new MTGO is even worse than MTGO 3.
They aren't coding this in-house. They're using a 3rd party developer. WotC's coders won't be a concern.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 06, 2009 - 2:48PM
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My apologies if I missed the recent thread on this subject. I didn't see it. This is regarding the previews about the new Magic Online interface. For example, see here:
www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/18254_T...
Honestly, "3.5" looks like an improvement, but I don't really care that much about there being a red zone, an in-interface notepad, or how it uses arrows to show targetting. Mostly what I want now is a UI that runs smoothly, as well as soom GOOD new UI features like an auto-sell feature, or a quick count of how many cards you have of a specific name in trades, etc.
It seems to me that WotC largely misses the point with Magic Online. Yes, the current interface is a problem, but a large part of the problem is that it's slow and buggy, and that it lacks a lot of really useful features. I am glad that they're helping the UI get out of the way, but I see no evidence that they've really been working on the other stuff. MTGO in Silverlight or Flash is probably going to be slower than MTGO 3, unless their programmers are much better than they were when they made MTGO 3.
With WotC's track record in this area, I am not getting my hopes up or expecting much. Honestly, I would not be surprised if the new MTGO is even worse than MTGO 3.
I'm sorry, but as it stands right now, I have to strongly disagree with your assessment. The UI redesign looks about 50 forms of awesome. Of course, the original UI for 3.0 looked awesome as well, and we know how well THAT turned out..... That being said, I have no reason to not like the direction they're currently taking. It only took them just south of a decade, but it finally looks like they're heading in the right direction.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 06, 2009 - 5:31PM
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I probably sit about where MA is on this - I don't have any reason to NOT like the direction this is headed. I am, however, conflicted between getting higher expectations, and being cynical about previous failures. I want to flame myself for not believing WOTC could get it right, and I want to flame myself for thinking they may get it right... meh... either way, I anticipate a flurry of activity when we get more confirmed stuff - and that activity will be evenly spread between worst ever, and best ever... I am secretly, however, mostly afraid that WOTC will get it wrong, and Chicken Little will be proved to be correct, and the sky will finally fall... actually the boy who cried wolf story fits better... finally the wolf will arrive and eat the game, and we have said it so many times... we will think it won't happen. point me to the place and time i need to sacrifice a wild boar to ensure it is not an epic failure.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 06, 2009 - 5:38PM
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Looks good in 1 vs 1. How bout that Multiplayer room?
"They were civilized they even drank their blood from a cup"→James Silke/Frank Frazzeta "When the Cryptkeeper sticks 'em they tend to stay stuck"→Cryptkeeper "Do not blame the current developers if there is something you don't like about Magic Online. Chances are no one asked the developers for their opinion."→elf "They just look at me like I'm stupid and then I just say something like well you know WOTC does some dumb things sometimes."→wilmheath "Like just about everything I've experienced with MTGO and the Magic WotC website, I'm finding it difficult to..."→0rbit "the more general question is: at what point does an easily fixable interface issue become a defect?"→silentbobus "Imagine, only four years later and I almost have as much functionality as I used to."→Algona "WotC, you make an awesome game, why do you have to suck so bad at letting people have a fun time?"→MTGKaioshin "If you are all about playing as many games as possible as fast as possible and you KNOW you have me beat, then concede and move on"→Johnh2005 "Wow. You're a real pleasure to help. Good luck figuring it out by yourself."→tempesteye "2hg brokest of the broke"→Me, Myself & I "It's you against the shuffler."→jwark Server status→ http://www.wizards.com/magic/magiconlineserverstatus.asp
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3 years ago ::
Nov 06, 2009 - 5:44PM
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Looks good in 1 vs 1. How bout that Multiplayer room?
And this. I could care less what they do to the UI 1v1, you take all that crap and try to put it X4 on a screen... crowded, ugly, useless... where is the love for multi...
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3 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2009 - 4:34PM
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i may be totally wrong in this so correct me utterly if i am wrong. but i have always felt that a program - like mtgo - run on my PC was more secure than something run within a web browser. is that not true? howsecure would an browser-based game clint really be? and what kind of security measures are wotc taking to ensure a lack of cheating, that we dont get hacked, and that our collections are secure?
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3 years ago ::
Nov 09, 2009 - 5:25PM
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i may be totally wrong in this so correct me utterly if i am wrong. but i have always felt that a program - like mtgo - run on my PC was more secure than something run within a web browser. is that not true? howsecure would an browser-based game clint really be? and what kind of security measures are wotc taking to ensure a lack of cheating, that we dont get hacked, and that our collections are secure?
For MtGO it doesn't matter, the client stores no secure information of any kind.
4. Don't speak dumb, or you'll be struck dumb.
Remember, the name of the game is heads I win, tails you lose.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 10, 2009 - 3:34PM
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It stores one bit of information: Whatever key the server uses to authenticate that the person connecting is still me. It also gathers the password and passes it to the server in some fashion. Putting the client in a browser does open a few more avenues to account hacking: Attacking a browser vulnerability that allows a random web page to add a plugin that steals authentication information, for example. Now, such an attack would be rather sophisticated, requiring a vulnerable browser, a visit to a compromised page, and writing a plugin that intercepts the information. So while it does open a few avenues for fraud, the decrease in actual security should be negligible.
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3 years ago ::
Nov 12, 2009 - 1:04PM
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- BCP5 Design Lead
- Not Least
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Stop me if I'm wrong, but I just realized this means that I can play at work with out having to install the program on my computer!?
ATTENTION WIZARDS OF THE COAST:
You have full rights to use any of my intellectual property found on these boards (I'm not going to use it and it'd be a shame to waste it).
-Dr. Stinkyjoeterry, Ph.D.
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