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5 years ago  ::  Oct 01, 2008 - 8:13AM #71
martinlongbow
Date Joined: Apr 6, 2008
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iceage4life wrote:

I'd sure they'd all be filled to the brim if we but had replays!


maybe not this one but the next one or the one after. I am really suprised how some people can not see how important replays are attracting people to PEs

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2008 - 7:43PM #72
Xyl
Date Joined: Apr 7, 2004
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Wow. They're going to be running a big tournament (the world championships qualifier) on MTGO, and still no replays.
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 26, 2008 - 8:49PM #73
Xyl
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Could we at least be told the priority the feature has (P1, P2, P3)? Inability to watch limited games is the only remaining issue preventing me from playing MTGO v3.
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 26, 2008 - 10:26PM #74
ORC_Clayben
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Xyl, check out Gordon's post here: http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=17020040

According to that, event replays are planned for the Tempest build December 8th.

Hope that is what you are looking to hear.
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 27, 2008 - 5:28AM #75
Offkorn
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iceage4life wrote:

I'd sure they'd all be filled to the brim if we but had replays!


The brim? No, as that would required ID's to return as well. There will, however, be a noticable increase once players can actually see the metagame and aren't playing totally blind and ignorant of whatever meta-shifts may be happening.

That was one of the main benefits of joining a PE over a Constructed queue after all.

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 27, 2008 - 7:19AM #76
sinensis
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2008
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WotC_ScottL wrote:

Not sure about when on finished PEs.

Replays for all PEs will not be available until after the event is over. File this under "ways Online can be better than paper." If we could prevent deck scouting in paper, we would.

Online, it can be prevented.

Thanks,


Deck scouting is a very important part of the game. What if a person has a few clan mates in a tournament, his clan mate loses and gives all the details of his opponents deck? Now he has privileged information that only him and his clan mates now have. You'll never be able to stop deck scouting EVER. Now you have a lot of people with privileged information mixed with Newbies just getting taken advantage of and learning nothing new because they cant even watch experienced players anymore.

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 27, 2008 - 1:50PM #77
martinlongbow
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replays should be live like they used to be, not after the tourney is finished.
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5 years ago  ::  Nov 18, 2008 - 7:47PM #78
SirGog
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Ethgar2 wrote:

Watching replays was the bext way to kill time if you finished your match early. I never used it for deck scouting (although I really only played limited events, not sure if it really helps there), my match is usually done early and right now it is really boring.


Scouting helps in limited.

e.g. Round 4, you win fast and watch someone (let's call them James) playing a match. James is playing a slow, control-based limited deck, and wins game 1 on the back of a Flameblast Dragon and wins the second game when his Hellkite Overlord sticks. You notice that in the match, he never applies significant early pressure, playing no scary two or three drops.

Round 5, you are paired against James and look at your starting 7 - two Islands, one Plains, one Forest, one Bant Charm, one Cancel, and one random 5-drop. Normally, that's a pretty likely mulligan, as you have no defense against a bunch of fast critters. But knowing what you do about James' deck, you know you aren't at risk of being swarmed, and you have two cards that are excellent against his slow, bomb-heavy deck - so you use your scouting to decide to keep the hand.



Don't think that's an uncommon situation. Another possible situation is that your scouting might tell you that an opponent has a lot of a particular combat trick (e.g. in Lorwyn limited you might see that an opponent has two normal Briarhorns and one foil one) - powerful information to use against them, as it may lead you to make different attacks and/or blocks.

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4 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2008 - 6:55AM #79
martinlongbow
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That is part of the deal. It happens in real life and is not a game breaker. I am pretty much sure that the reason replays are not implemented or implemented somewhat broken is not scouting (even though they officially say so). It is purely tehcnical, they can not do it. Personally, lack of replays prevent me to join PEs at the moment. It is a long time dedication and i got bored quickly in between games. It is also a great way for new players to learn and develop their games. and lastly it is good for people to be uptodate with latest decks in constructed formats.
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4 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2008 - 5:31PM #80
petkos
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martinlongbow wrote:

That is part of the deal. It happens in real life and is not a game breaker.


But it is possible to eliminate (or at least reduce) this particular form of cheating on-line. To me, it seems a like good move to do so.

Personally, lack of replays prevent me to join PEs at the moment.


Given my comment immediately above, it would be highly inappropriate, and perhaps a COC violation for me to comment on this statement.


It is a long time dedication and i got bored quickly in between games.


Read a book, watch TV, grab a cup of coffee.... All sorts of possibilities.

It is also a great way for new players to learn and develop their games.


Given that they cannot see either player`s hand, it strikes me as extremely limited in usefulness.

and lastly it is good for people to be uptodate with latest decks in constructed formats.


With PE top 8 decklists now regularly being posted, this is entirely redundant.

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