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3 months ago  ::  Mar 16, 2013 - 8:03AM #1
Zauzich
Date Joined: Feb 10, 2010
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Death Grasp

It was reprinted in Sorin vs Tibalt. Side products like this are known to sometimes portent standard printings ( Grim Lavamancer in Fire and Lightning, Contagion Clasp in Elspeth vs Tezzeret). 

I'm not sure of the slot distribution breakdown per guild beyond 1 champion each at mythic but I think Death Grasp would be an exiting and worthy reprint as a rare to open in limited (splashable) and also a X spell in the Sphinx's Revelation / Aurelia's Fury / Clan Defiance ballpark that would give a reason for Crypt Ghast to exist once Innistrad rotates.

Do the new art / flavor text give us any clues (That's not Teysa)?

What would you think of  Death Grasp  in the current standard environment? In Modern?

I have two old copies from Apocalyps that I'd love to dust off.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 16, 2013 - 8:26AM #2
Enigma256
Date Joined: Jul 28, 2010
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Contagion Clasp was an announced "preprint"

I don't think the reprint of Death Grasp means anything for DGM
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 16, 2013 - 6:39PM #3
HairlessThoctar
Date Joined: Dec 27, 2009
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They tend not to reprint rares in non-core set expansions.

That being said, it is rather curious that it got new art that has jack all to do with Sorin.

Edit: They actually talk about this in the Sorin v Tibalt breakdown article.
Basically, they like to use side products like these to reprint neat things from yesteryear that might not get another chance for a while. Especially if it's due for an art update.
The slot was briefly considered for Sorin's Vengeance , but it was too obvious.   

"Death Grasp isn't the Sorin's Vengeance we want, it's the Sorin's Grasp we need." ~Trick Jarrett

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 16, 2013 - 7:01PM #4
Decktesting54
Date Joined: Jun 23, 2012
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I hope they reprint something like death grasp   in DGM, I was sad when we lost exsanguinate   and consume spirit   once scars and M12 cycled and we've been missing a life draining type spell in standard; not to mention in conjunction with liliana of the dark realms   and crypt ghast   it would be a good finisher for a control deck.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 17, 2013 - 1:00AM #5
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I will point out, Meddling Mage was reprinted in Alara Reborn, and the shocks are reprints, as much as we've begun to take them for granted.  That withstanding, I see this being very, very unlikely.  There've been almost a dozen duel decks, and Grim Lavamancer wasn't even in one- it was in a premium deck.  That hardly implies a trend.

 
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 20, 2013 - 9:41PM #6
Shiny_Umbreon
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Not to mention Death Grasp sucks, it's not particularly exciting at rare now, and is a bit off color (I mean it should be monoblack).
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 20, 2013 - 10:12PM #7
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My Esper control would heart the crap out of this card.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 20, 2013 - 11:23PM #8
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Orzhov already got stuck with a crappy reprint in beckon apparition. But yes, they should pile on the garbage for Orzhov. 
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 21, 2013 - 8:05AM #9
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Orzhov already got their X costing spell in Immortal Servitude . I expect Golgari and Selesnya to get spells with X in the casting cost, seeing as how the other guilds have Sphinx's Revelation , Rakdos's Return , Epic Experiment , Aurelia's Fury , Clan Defiance , Biomass Mutation , and Mind Grind .

Selesnya's could involve putting X tokens onto the battlefield, and Golgari could make you reveal the top X cards of your library, with your opponent seperating those cards into two piles. Put the pile of your choice into your graveyard and the other pile into your hand.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 21, 2013 - 11:21AM #10
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Date Joined: Mar 21, 2012
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Mar 20, 2013 -- 9:41PM, Shiny_Umbreon wrote:

Not to mention Death Grasp sucks, it's not particularly exciting at rare now, and is a bit off color (I mean it should be monoblack).


Mar 20, 2013 -- 11:23PM, Shadowchu wrote:

Orzhov already got stuck with a crappy reprint in beckon apparition. But yes, they should pile on the garbage for Orzhov. 




What exactly makes Death Grasp and Beckon Apparition crappy? DG hits creatures or players and has a very cheap color weight, furthermore it doesn't require you to pay mana of a specific color for X. The fact it heals you is considered white's influence in this case, and gives the designers an excuse to make the basic effect more effective.

BA is relevant to a format that has flashback and Snapcaster Mage as well as any format with a notable Reanimator deck, including Standard decks that run Unburial Rites . And it costs one hybrid mana. And nets you a free flying token. It's a good companion to Midnight Haunting and Lingering Souls . Plus its cheap cost plays well with Extort, which in the right deck puts Exsanguinate to shame.

But to concur with NZB2323, there seems to be a loose cycle of X cost spells going around and Orzhov has theirs, so DG for Orzhov in DGM is unlikely. The fact Orzhov had Extort this time around would also likely have screwed Grasp out of any chance it had of being printed in RTR. It would make a good reprint for them however, maybe in Ravnica 3. Of course, they'd be just as likely to create a different version tailored to Orzhov's mechanic in that block.


   
   
   
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