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3 months ago  ::  Mar 14, 2013 - 11:07AM #1
Esterdi
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Sorcery

Search your library for a card. Shuffle your library and put that card on top of it.
Then, put ~ into your library second from the top.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 14, 2013 - 11:10AM #2
cats_and_me
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Well, I really can't decide whether the second ability should count as good thing or bad thing, but for some reason (that I would like to hear!) you costed that second ability as good thing..
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 14, 2013 - 11:15AM #3
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Mar 14, 2013 -- 11:10AM, cats_and_me wrote:

you costed that second ability as good thing..


how about "as exactly neutral thing"
I like it.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 14, 2013 - 11:16AM #4
Esterdi
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Mar 14, 2013 -- 11:10AM, cats_and_me wrote:

Well, I really can't decide whether the second ability should count as good thing or bad thing, but for some reason (that I would like to hear!) you costed that second ability as good thing..




What you basically do with this card is you play it in a deck with Howling Mine so that, at an arguably sizeable toll, you draw exactly what you want/need every turn.

But I costed it neither as a good or a bad thing. I think Diabolic Tutor is ok, and Demonic Tutor is broken.

This is not meant to be strictly better than Diabolic Tutor, nor strictly worse, just different.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 14, 2013 - 11:22AM #5
cats_and_me
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Wait, a four-mana version of Vampiric Tutor should have a second ability that's costed as good thing, otherwise it's printable as two-mana card or three-mana card..
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 14, 2013 - 11:22AM #6
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Yeah, hand =/= top of library.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 14, 2013 - 11:23AM #7
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I might agree with three mana, but two is severely pushing the envelope. 
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 14, 2013 - 11:35AM #8
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Mar 14, 2013 -- 11:22AM, cats_and_me wrote:

Wait, a four-mana version of Vampiric Tutor should have a second ability that's costed as good thing, otherwise it's printable as two-mana card or three-mana card..


well. given most buyback spells cost like 3 - 5 +

Repeated tutor is a strong thing. 

let's go with vamp tutor
Removal of life cost
Buybacked
Lose a draw on buyback ~


That's not too bad now is it?

Edit: I personally hate cheap tutors. 

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 14, 2013 - 11:36AM #9
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tutoring has become mainstream in all colors

tutoring allows people to build consistent decks

decks with greater card variety give tutor cards more options to grab
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 14, 2013 - 11:40AM #10
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I think the original cost is perfect.
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