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2 months ago ::
Mar 13, 2013 - 10:38AM
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2/2 Double Strike attacks and is blocked by a 1/1. 1/1 dies. Does the Double Strike hit the player on it's second strike?
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2 months ago ::
Mar 13, 2013 - 10:40AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 18, 2009
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2/2 Double Strike attacks and is blocked by a 1/1. 1/1 dies. Does the Double Strike hit the player on it's second strike?
No, because it was blocked and stays blocked for the rest of combat, even if the blocker is removed.
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2 months ago ::
Mar 13, 2013 - 10:41AM
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Date Joined:
Jan 19, 2003
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2/2 Double Strike attacks and is blocked by a 1/1. 1/1 dies. Does the Double Strike hit the player on it's second strike?
No. Your 2/2 creature is still a "blocked creature". Blocked creatures don't get to assign damage to the defending player unless they have trample or a similar ability. It will assign no combat damage in the second combat damage step.
509.1h An attacking creature with one or more creatures declared as blockers for it becomes a blocked creature; one with no creatures declared as blockers for it becomes an unblocked creature. This remains unchanged until the creature is removed from combat, an effect says that it becomes blocked or unblocked, or the combat phase ends, whichever comes first. A creature remains blocked even if all the creatures blocking it are removed from combat.
510.1c A blocked creature assigns its combat damage to the creatures blocking it. If no creatures are currently blocking it (if, for example, they were destroyed or removed from combat), it assigns no combat damage. [...]
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2 months ago ::
Mar 13, 2013 - 10:41AM
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Oct 15, 2009
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No. The creature is still blocked. Unless it has trample, a blocked creature either deals damage to the creatures blocking it or deals no damage if there are no remaining creatures blocking it.
Rules Advisor as of 03/01/2013 Zammm = Batman "Ability words are flavor text for Melvins." -- Fallingman
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2 months ago ::
Mar 13, 2013 - 10:43AM
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OK, cool. That is how we have been playing but I had one of those brain fart moments today 
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2 months ago ::
Mar 18, 2013 - 12:31PM
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Mar 18, 2013
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2/2 Double Strike attacks and is blocked by a 1/1. 1/1 dies. Does the Double Strike hit the player on it's second strike?
However, you aren't looking at the situation correctly. If it is a basic 1/1, then in combat phase #1 the 2/2 deals two damage. Only a creature with first strike or double strike can block the first attack of a double striker. After that resolves, *then* the 1/1 can block the second attack of the 2/2 and die.
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2 months ago ::
Mar 18, 2013 - 12:34PM
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Sep 16, 2011
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2/2 Double Strike attacks and is blocked by a 1/1. 1/1 dies. Does the Double Strike hit the player on it's second strike?
However, you aren't looking at the situation correctly. If it is a basic 1/1, then in combat phase #1 the 2/2 deals two damage. Only a creature with first strike or double strike can block the first attack of a double striker. After that resolves, *then* the 1/1 can block the second attack of the 2/2 and die.
Wow. He's looking at the situation far more correctly than you are.
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2 months ago ::
Mar 18, 2013 - 12:38PM
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Mar 18, 2013
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2/2 Double Strike attacks and is blocked by a 1/1. 1/1 dies. Does the Double Strike hit the player on it's second strike?
However, you aren't looking at the situation correctly. If it is a basic 1/1, then in combat phase #1 the 2/2 deals two damage. Only a creature with first strike or double strike can block the first attack of a double striker. After that resolves, *then* the 1/1 can block the second attack of the 2/2 and die.
Wow. He's looking at the situation far more correctly than you are.
How so? The rules as I read them say that when a creature with double strike attacks, the first combat phase only involves creatures with double strike or first strike. Therefore, the first attack of a double striker only can be blocked by a creature with first or double strike. Tell me where the rules say something different, since I have a double striker in my deck and I want to use him properly.
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2 months ago ::
Mar 18, 2013 - 12:47PM
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Sep 16, 2011
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There is only one combat phase, unless something specifically creates another (like Relentless Assault  ). First strike and double strike lead to there being two combat damage steps. But there's still only one combat phase. Everything up to and through blocker declaration is unaffected. Then at the first combat damage step, all first Strike and Double Strike creatures deal their damage (to their blockers if there are any, to the player/planeswalker if they're unblocked). Then at the second combat damage step, creatures that have not had their chance to deal combat damage yet this combat, and doublestrikers, deal damage. 510.5. If at least one attacking or blocking creature has first strike (see rule 702.7) or double strike (see rule 702.4) as the combat damage step begins, the only creatures that assign combat damage in that step are those with first strike or double strike. After that step, instead of proceeding to the end of combat step, the phase gets a second combat damage step. The only creatures that assign combat damage in that step are the remaining attackers and blockers that had neither first strike nor double strike as the first combat damage step began, as well as the remaining attackers and blockers that currently have double strike. After that step, the phase proceeds to the end of combat step.
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2 months ago ::
Mar 18, 2013 - 12:53PM
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May 15, 2001
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Double strike and first strike are not evasion.
They can be blocked by creatures without those abilities. Double/first strike creatures will deal damage before other creatures, but if that destroyes the other creature that doesn't undo blocking, or make a creature unblocked.
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