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3 months ago ::
Mar 08, 2013 - 7:05AM
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What about just amping up the defense even more? Castle  and stuff like that. Maybe some indestructible stuff like Darksteel Myr  or Rootborn Defenses  ?
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3 months ago ::
Mar 08, 2013 - 7:30AM
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3 months ago ::
Mar 08, 2013 - 8:11AM
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I just meant in terms of making it more "defensive"...
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Thou shalt play 60 cards. No more. No less (unless thou so choseth to play EDH... in which case I cannot help thee)
Thou shalt playtest with at least 22 lands (perhaps more for Control, perhaps less for Aggro).
Thou shalt pick no more than three colors of thine own choosing which ye find to be the most fun to play.
Thou shalt use Mana Fixing, lest ye be Mana screwed for all thine days of Planeswalking.
Thou shalt abide by the Rule of Nine.
Thou shalt play a playset (four copies) of the aforementioned Nine.
And Urza saw all and said it was indeed good!
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3 months ago ::
Mar 08, 2013 - 8:12AM
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Its not a wall but could work with the theme Azor's Elocutors  , sit behind your walls and win!
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3 months ago ::
Mar 08, 2013 - 8:14AM
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Yes, I understood what you meant. Deck is defensive enough since he is running lots and lots of walls. Instead making room for extra defense on an all ready plentiful amount of defense, he should add cards to help him be able to activate Luminarch Ascension  quicker and easier so he can actually win the game.
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3 months ago ::
Mar 08, 2013 - 8:15AM
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Yes, I understood what you meant. Deck is defensive enough since he is running lots and lots of walls. Instead making room for extra defense on all ready a plentiful amount of defense, he should add cards to help him be able to activate Luminarch Ascension quicker and easier so he can actually win the game.
indeed. I also like the idea of Azor's Elocutors . You could try some proliferation to get the Luminarch Ascention going quicker as well.
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Thou shalt play 60 cards. No more. No less (unless thou so choseth to play EDH... in which case I cannot help thee)
Thou shalt playtest with at least 22 lands (perhaps more for Control, perhaps less for Aggro).
Thou shalt pick no more than three colors of thine own choosing which ye find to be the most fun to play.
Thou shalt use Mana Fixing, lest ye be Mana screwed for all thine days of Planeswalking.
Thou shalt abide by the Rule of Nine.
Thou shalt play a playset (four copies) of the aforementioned Nine.
And Urza saw all and said it was indeed good!
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3 months ago ::
Mar 08, 2013 - 8:15AM
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Its not a wall but could work with the theme Azor's Elocutors , sit behind your walls and win!
That could work as an Alt Wincon and is dealing with counters so it works with proliferate. Idk, OP does not want to change the deck idea too much.
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3 months ago ::
Mar 08, 2013 - 8:52AM
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Azor's Elocutors would be a really good idea if I were more proliferate heavy. The main problem I have with him is that he actually gets significantly worse in 2 vs 2 games where Luminarch Ascension gets much better. I usually play a mix of 1 vs 1 games and 2 vs 2 games so I always try to build decks that can perform okay in both situations. Okay, I made a few changes: -3 Gideon, Champion of Justice  -3 Jace, Architect of Thought  -1 Luminarch Ascension -1 Wall of Denial  +2 Jace Beleren  +2 Gideon Jura  +2 Tamiyo, the Moon Sage  +2 Tezzeret's Gambit  This group of Planeswalkers is actually the one I like to use in my turbo fog decks. The reason the new Gideon was in the deck was because I thought the card looked really fun to use and this seemed like the type of deck he would be most useful in. I would think he would want to be in a deck that is capable of holding off multiple creatures without actually removing them from play. I do get what you're saying about only being useful against creature decks so I guess I can make the change.
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3 months ago ::
Mar 08, 2013 - 8:51PM
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The changes look excellent. I still would keep a playset of Luminarch Ascension since you need to be able to draw it as its your only wincon. Also, I would keep a playset of Wall of Denial . In addition, I would suggest you to cut 2 plains and 2 islands and run a playset of Glacial Fortress  for help in mana fixing. Once again, you need Negate  pretty badly. I would actually cut some walls, 15-17 should be enough to stop creatures, for some Negate s. I'm really liking the deck so far. Actually, any deck using the Gideon Jura + Tamiyo, the Moon Sage combo is one I like. :D EDIT: I would also run a playset of Tezzeret's Gambit but you do not seem to like it too much.
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