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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 8:56AM #1
CommanderGreven
Date Joined: Mar 2, 2010
Posts: 11,289
Todays final GTC card to rate is...

Obzedat, Ghost Council

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5.0
: First pick no matter what.  I will always play this card.
4.5
: Splashable and first pick worthy.
4.0
: First pick pack 1.
3.5
: Early pick though not always a first pick.
3.0
: Solid early/mid pick.
2.5
: Solid pick in color.
2.0
: Should generally make the deck if in this color.
1.5
: Decent filler.
1.0
: 23rd card if you have to.
0.5
: This card will sometimes be sideboarded in.
0.0
: I will never put this card into my deck (main deck or after sideboarding).


This is without a doubt my favorite card in the set.  That being said this is also a very good card in both constructed and draft.  I consider it a very high pick and if you see it pack 2 switch to his colors or at least try to.

4.5

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 8:57AM #2
Niche
Date Joined: Apr 25, 2008
Posts: 8,546
Isn't this guy a 5?


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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 9:18AM #3
TheFranchise
Date Joined: Jun 18, 2012
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4.5.  If you're Gruul or Simic and this is in pack 3, you probably pick him for trade/hate reasons, not because you can shoehorn him into the deck.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 9:23AM #4
Shadowchu
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Mar 7, 2013 -- 8:57AM, Niche wrote:

Isn't this guy a 5?



Yes

Good in EDH
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 9:31AM #5
rstnme
Date Joined: Aug 10, 2012
Posts: 2,531
5

This guy is impossible to race. And I know my rankings below give it a 4.5 but that was before playing against it.
Limited Guidelines:

5.0: I will take this card no matter what: Pack Rat
4.5: Bomb and/or splashable creature or removal: Aetherling
4.0: Excellent first pick first pack, will sway me into same colors: Advent of the Wurm
3.5: Excellent first pack pick two, will confirm colors or possibly sway into second color. Gaze of Granite
3.0: Good in-color addition, or splashable removal/creature: Ascended Lawmage
2.5: Solid pick in-color: Bronzebeak Moa
2.0: Creatures 10-16; removal 6-7. Haazda Snare Squad
1.5: My 23rd or 22nd card, depending on removal. Wake the Reflections )
1.0: 23rd card if I don't maindeck an additional land: Murmuring Phantasm
0.5: This card will sometimes be sideboarded in: Uncovered Clues
0.0: I will shred this card for counters: Possibility Storm
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 9:34AM #6
I-rock
Date Joined: Mar 31, 2002
Posts: 1,024
5.  Even if I'm in, say, Gruul and this is P3P1 I will hate this thing harder than you can imagine.  I do not want my opponent to even have the option of playing it against me.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 10:24AM #7
silentbobus
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2009
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Something in the 4.5-5.0 range seems right. I am reluctant to give it 5.0 based on the high color requirement, but it certainly gets there on powerlevel.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 10:26AM #8
I-rock
Date Joined: Mar 31, 2002
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Mar 7, 2013 -- 10:24AM, silentbobus wrote:

Something in the 4.5-5.0 range seems right. I am reluctant to give it 5.0 based on the high color requirement, but it certainly gets there on powerlevel.




Yeah, that was my only trepedition in giving it a 5 on the scoring system.  Still, I cannot see myself ever passing this under any circumstance, as its absurd strength is not something I want any opponent to have as an option.  I will honestly hate this thing every step of the way.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 10:28AM #9
silentbobus
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2009
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Mar 7, 2013 -- 10:26AM, I-rock wrote:

Mar 7, 2013 -- 10:24AM, silentbobus wrote:

Something in the 4.5-5.0 range seems right. I am reluctant to give it 5.0 based on the high color requirement, but it certainly gets there on powerlevel.




Yeah, that was my only trepedition in giving it a 5 on the scoring system.  Still, I cannot see myself ever passing this under any circumstance, as its absurd strength is not something I want any opponent to have as an option.  I will honestly hate this thing every step of the way.




I'd take it as a hate/value pick, but I'm not sure I would take it as a hate pick alone if there was something decent in the pack for me.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 10:30AM #10
7thGate
Date Joined: Mar 22, 2011
Posts: 129
I would give it a 4.5.  I would take it every time at FNM because of monetary concerns, but in a redraft I would pass it pack 3 if I was Simic or Gruul unless I didn't have anything good to take.

Ironically, I have only played with/against it twice, and lost time it was on my side and won the time I played against it.

Still stupid good though, even if it has randomly underperformed in my small sample size experience. 
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