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3 months ago ::
Mar 06, 2013 - 2:00AM
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Date Joined:
Jul 15, 2011
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this was a question in a recent cranialinsertion article: === Q: If Fathom Mage  < /a>  enters the battlefield with counters from Master Biomancer  < /a> or something, do I get to draw cards?
A: Yes! If Fathom Mage enters the battlefield with counters on it, that does count as placing counters on Fathom Mage.
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(www.cranialinsertion.com/article/771) i'm having trouble understanding this. in my mind, i thought that there's a replacement effect, that makes Fathom Mage enter the battlefield already with a +1/+1 counter on it. "whenever a +1/+1 counter is placed on fathom mage" sounds to my ears like for this to trigger, Fathom Mage has to go from a game state where she has N +1/+1 counters on her, to a game state where he has N+1 +1/+1 counters on her. this never happens, so i thought her triggered ability wouldn't trigger? so can someone clarify where i'm wrong, using comp rules to help me understand this?
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3 months ago ::
Mar 06, 2013 - 2:02AM
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Date Joined:
Jul 15, 2011
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sorry -- upon closer inspection of the comp rules, i found an answer:
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121.6. If a spell or ability refers to a counter being "placed" on a permanent, it means putting a counter on that permanent while it's on the battlefield, or that permanent entering the battlefield with a counter on it as the result of an effect (see rule 614.1c).
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