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4 months ago ::
Mar 05, 2013 - 6:12PM
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Date Joined:
Feb 14, 2010
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If I play a Gemstone mine  wasting 2 counters on it, if I play then a Selesnya sanctuary  bouncing Gemstone mine to my hand, does the counters remain on it or the counters just disappear?
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4 months ago ::
Mar 05, 2013 - 6:13PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 15, 2011
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When an object changes zones, it loses all memory of its previous existence. The counters cease to exist. If/when you replay the Mine, it will have a fresh allotment of 3 mining counters.
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4 months ago ::
Mar 05, 2013 - 6:49PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 16, 2007
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Forgetting you're wearing clothes doesn't make you naked. That it has no memory of its old self is not important here. The actual reason the counters are lost follows:
When an object changes zone, it becomes a new object. Nothing moves the counters from the old object (permanent) to the new one (card in hand), so they effectively cease to exist.
If it were to become a permanent again, that would be yet another object. It would get a fresh set of counters for entering the battlefield, but it won't also have any counters "it" used to have.
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4 months ago ::
Mar 06, 2013 - 8:07AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 21, 2006
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121.2. Counters on an object are not retained if that object moves from one zone to another. The counters are not “removed”; they simply cease to exist.
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Sounds familiar?
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4 months ago ::
Mar 06, 2013 - 12:28PM
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