Ok, i need a ruling on mana ramping with these cards. Primeval Titan has been banned from EDH as it is a mana ramp card, but Omnath, Locus of Mana is not. In my eyes Omnath, Locus of Mana can produce more mana as the mana does not empty at the end of a turn or step. So in turn 5 you can have 9 green mana in your mana pool and some very large creatures along with Omnath, Locus of Mana out on the table effectively winning the game by turn 5. Why is this card not banned, or are we looking at it wrongly.
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Your math is correct. If you play a land every turn, and play Omnath, Locus of Mana on turn three, it is possible to have in your mana pool by the main phase of turn 5.
Your math is correct. If you play a land every turn, and play Omnath, Locus of Mana on turn three, it is possible to have in your mana pool by the main phase of turn 5.
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A creature can be destroyed by any effect that says "destroy" or lethal damage. If Omnath leaves the battlefield, the ONLY GREEN mana that you have floating will disappear as soon as the current step or phase ends.
Land cards can only be destroyed by effects that say "destroy target land" or "destroy target permanent" (or destroy all lands). Or occasionally, they can be put in the graveyard as a result of the Legend Rule when two legendary lands with the same name are on the battlefield. When an effect lets you search for a land card card in your library without specifying "basic" or any particular basic land type, you can find ANY LAND CARD you want (not just those that produce mana of a specific color).
Primevil Titan appears in nearly every EDH deck using green which isn't true of Omnath.
Titan can tutor specific lands which is imminently more useful.
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You're looking at the situation the wrong way. It's not all about mana ramp. Primeval Titan was banned because it can fetch any two lands. Lands can do a lot more than just produce mana, like become creatures or destroy other lands or exile creatures. The fact that Prime Time can fetch Temple of the False God or Simic Growth Chamber or other such lands that tap for more than one mana is just the icing on the cake. And yes, while Omnath, Locus of Mana can store so much mana, as it has been pointed out before, if Omnath leaves the battlefield for any reason, that mana goes with it; but the lands that Prime Time grabs are forever.
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