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3 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 4:58PM #1
emeraldegg
Date Joined: Feb 22, 2013
Posts: 7
Hey all, so I earlier today I ran into a problem regarding the combat phase, specifically the declare blockers and combat damage steps. I was always under the assumption that if an opponent declares a blocker, then I do something, say Murder, to kill it, the damage from my attacking creature would go through. But today, I attacked my friend's Elspeth card, that was at 4 loyalty, with two vampire nighthawks, which should have have killed it. However, he has a flyer on the field and says he's going to block, so in response, I murder it. He then tries to claim that because he already declared the blocker, the damage from his flyer happens regardless, meaining not only would one of my nighthawks fail to get through and kill elspeth, but also my nighthawk would die from the damage it took from his flyer (herald of war). That can't be right though can it? Otherwise, that means that damage happens literally the instant someone declares a blocker, not allowing time to buff your creature or kill his. If I can throw an instant literally anytime during the game, I see no reason why I can't murder something "at the end of the declare blockers step." Any clarification would be appreciated, thanks!
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 5:01PM #2
Enigma256
Date Joined: Jul 28, 2010
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once a creature is blocked, it remains blocked, no matter what happens to the blocker or even if there was no blocker in the first place
a blocked creature can't deal damage to a player or planeswalker, unless it had trample
if there is no more blocker (and no trample) it will simply deal no damage

if you want the damage to go through you have to Murder potential blockers before blockers are declared
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 5:02PM #3
Shard_Fenix
Date Joined: Jan 24, 2011
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Once a creature is blocked, it stays blocked for the duration of the combat phase. You have to remove potential blockers before your opponent blocks. (He can't block until you are finished casting spells/abilities).

If you kill his blocker before the combat damage step, it will deal no combat damage (because it's not on the battlefield). Your blocked creature will deal no combat damage unless it has trample or a similar ability because it was blocked. 
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 5:09PM #4
emeraldegg
Date Joined: Feb 22, 2013
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I see. I had thought that an attacking creature, although an opponent can declare a blocker for it, technically wasn't "blocked" until damage was dealt, so that dealing damage in combat was the definition of a "blocked" creature. After all, just because you say you're going to block, doesn't mean you already blocked them, at least in terms of english. But oh well, if that's the ruling. Thanks guys.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 5:26PM #5
Enigma256
Date Joined: Jul 28, 2010
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creatures become blocked or unblocked after blockers have been declared
that's how Ninjas work
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