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3 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 4:47PM #1
NeoDragon
Date Joined: Aug 24, 2007
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Let's say i'm attacking with an Ashenmoore Liege and Demigod of Revenge and my friend blocks with something that can kill Ashenmoore Liege , do the +1/+1's come off the Demigod as soon as the Liege dies or only after the damage phase as passed?
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 4:48PM #2
Enigma256
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they wear off as soon as the Liege dies

but all combat damage is dealt at the same time, so unless the blocker has first or double strike the demigod will deal "buffed" damage
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 4:49PM #3
Chaikov
Date Joined: Jun 21, 2006
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Ashenmoor Liege
After.
All combat damage is dealt simultaneously. Then creatures die. Then the bonus goes away.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 4:50PM #4
Shard_Fenix
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Ashenmoor Liege doesn't grant any counters. Its bonus is static and only lasts as long as the Liege remains on the battlefield.

Damage is dealt simultaneously (assuming no first/double strike is involved). The demigod will deal combat damage considering the bonuses given to it by Ashenmoor Liege.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 4:51PM #5
Chaikov
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Mar 4, 2013 -- 4:50PM, Shard_Fenix wrote:

Ashenmoor Liege doesn't grant any counters.


And nobody said so.

«Dystocracy : A system of government in which corrupt leadership colludes with dishonest bankers and greedy elites in order to ensure that productive members of society –people who actually do useful work- bear the greatest share of taxes while gaining the least benefit possible.»

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 4:56PM #6
Shard_Fenix
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Mar 4, 2013 -- 4:51PM, Chaikov wrote:

Mar 4, 2013 -- 4:50PM, Shard_Fenix wrote:

Ashenmoor Liege doesn't grant any counters.


And nobody said so.



The title implied it.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 5:02PM #7
NeoDragon
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thanks guys much appreciated!
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 05, 2013 - 2:58AM #8
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Mar 4, 2013 -- 4:56PM, Shard_Fenix wrote:

Mar 4, 2013 -- 4:51PM, Chaikov wrote:

Mar 4, 2013 -- 4:50PM, Shard_Fenix wrote:

Ashenmoor Liege doesn't grant any counters.


And nobody said so.



The title implied it.



I think we have trained ourselves to expect players to get this wrong.

But actually, neither the title or the OP implied or mentioned counters of any kind. I had to read it all twice just to be sure, because I almost auto-piloted the same way you did.

In short: well done OP for not making a common mistake.

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Jan 5, 2013 -- 9:32PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jan 4, 2013 -- 5:20AM, LMTRK wrote:

That makes no sense to me.

If they spelled the ability out on the card in full then it would not be allowed in a mono-black Commander deck, but because they used a keyword to save space it is allowed?

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Yup, just like you can have Birds of paradise in a mono green deck but not Noble Hierarch . YAY COLOR IDENTITY


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Jul 7, 2011 -- 12:36AM, LMTRK wrote:

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I love this description. Like the cows are sponges filled with milk. I can see it all Nick Parks claymation-style with the cow's eyes bugging out momentarily as a giant farmer squeezes it like a squeaky dog toy, and milk shoots out of it.

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