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4 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 1:01PM #1
SimpleDreams
Date Joined: Jan 30, 2011
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Imposter Syndrome
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Target creature's controller returns that creature to its owner's hand and replaces it with a 1/1 white Citizen creature token. (The token is treated as the same game object as the original creature and does not trigger any "enters the battlefield" abilities.)
Jarkaled looked in the mirror, and all he saw was a stranger wearing his skin.

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Does this need more reminder text? I feel like there's probably some sort of extremely convoluted situation somebody can concoct that would make resolving this card ambiguous and confusing, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.

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4 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 2:25PM #2
metalevolence
Date Joined: Oct 10, 2009
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I don't know if it's possible for something to get onto the battlefield without "entering the battlefield"? I would just add a phrase from torpor orb and avoid much confusion
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4 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 2:28PM #3
SuperSpawnWrithe
Date Joined: Dec 27, 2012
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Return target creature to its owner's hand. Its controller puts a 1/1 white Citizen token onto the battlefield.


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4 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 2:34PM #4
metalevolence
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The way to do exactly what his card does now would be

Return target creature to its owner's hand. That creature's controller puts a token that's a copy of that creature onto the battlefield, except it's a 1/1 white Citizen. The token entering the battlefield doesn't cause abilities to trigger.

except he's trying to pull some illusionary mask shenanigans with "replace"
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4 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 2:36PM #5
magicpablo666
Date Joined: May 19, 2012
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No, the creature Becomes the token right? That's the intent of the original card, in my interpretation. So, if someone wants to Murder your Crows , just make them into a little man for a minute - perhaps constructed from old clothes and straw, and then bring the Crows back when he dies.

Jun 18, 2013 -- 4:47PM, Mown wrote:

What a shame, I thought your previous one was fantastic.

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4 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 2:39PM #6
SimpleDreams
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Mar 4, 2013 -- 2:36PM, magicpablo666 wrote:

No, the creature Becomes the token right? That's the intent of the original card, in my interpretation. So, if someone wants to Murder your Crows , just make them into a little man for a minute - perhaps constructed from old clothes and straw, and then bring the Crows back when he dies.



This was the original intent of the card. Any spells that target the original creature should still target the token, and the token keeps all auras/equipment/counters and the same state (tapped/untapped/attacking/blocking/etc.)

I have no good way of wording it though.


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4 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 2:43PM #7
metalevolence
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Oh jeez. I would probably just have the creature become a 1/1 white citizen and have the controller draw a card...

You could have them search their library for a creature card with the same name...? 
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4 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 2:44PM #8
SimpleDreams
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Mar 4, 2013 -- 2:43PM, metalevolence wrote:

Oh jeez. I would probably just have the creature become a 1/1 white citizen and have the controller draw a card...

You could have them search their library for a creature card with the same name...? 



But this way is cooler.


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4 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 2:46PM #9
metalevolence
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I know, but I don't think you can have a real card become a token object. That's like, defying reality.
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4 months ago  ::  Mar 04, 2013 - 2:50PM #10
razorborne
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all we have to do is define the word "replace". it is not currently part of any oracle wording, so you can do whatever you want with it. if you want to define it as "it becomes the same game object" you can totally do that. just make sure to never put it on a card that isn't guranteed to remove the original object, because I don't want to deal with the implications of two objects sharing an identity.

 
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