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3 months ago  ::  Mar 05, 2013 - 9:31AM #21
natu
Date Joined: Jun 16, 2012
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Next one,

When Stuffy Doll hit the field, choose a player. What happen if it's a three-way game, and the chosen opponent/player loses? Does damage deals to Stuffy now go null?
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 05, 2013 - 9:34AM #22
Enigma256
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yes, its trigger will simply deal no damage anymore
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 06, 2013 - 11:43PM #23
natu
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Oh, oh, I have a new one...

If I Forked Bolt and targeting Ink-Treader Nephilim , and I then copy the spell for each creature on the field, do I get to choose how I divide the damage to creature & player? 

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I just suddenly realized that Ink-Treader says specifically "target ~ only". Does that mean the copy of Forked Bolt can only target the other creatures?
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 06, 2013 - 11:47PM #24
Shard_Fenix
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Mar 6, 2013 -- 11:43PM, natu wrote:

If I Forked Bolt and targeting Ink-Treader Nephilim , and I then copy the spell for each creature on the field, do I get to choose how I divide the damage to creature & player?


No. Each copy does 2 damage to one thing.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 06, 2013 - 11:55PM #25
natu
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And yeah one more thing, still working on Ink-Treader Nephilim right now.

When I cast Soul's Grace on him, does that mean I also gain life from the other creatures my opponents control ? 
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 12:25AM #26
Shard_Fenix
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Mar 6, 2013 -- 11:55PM, natu wrote:

And yeah one more thing, still working on Ink-Treader Nephilim right now.

When I cast Soul's Grace on him, does that mean I also gain life from the other creatures my opponents control ? 



Yes. Soul Grace can target any creature.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 07, 2013 - 8:27AM #27
Chaikov
Date Joined: Jun 21, 2006
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Mar 6, 2013 -- 11:43PM, natu wrote:

Ink-Treader says specifically "target ~ only". Does that mean the copy of Forked Bolt can only target the other creatures?


Yes, but not for the reasons you think.

First, Nephilim says «Each copy targets a different one of those creatures.»

Second, when one copies a spell, one usually is allowed to change some targets, but never allowed to change the number of targets.

706.10. (...) A copy of a spell or ability copies (...) all decisions made for it, including modes, targets,....
 

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601.2c The player announces (...) each target the spell requires. (...) If the spell has a variable number of targets, the player announces how many targets he or she will choose before he or she announces those targets...

114.6a If an effect allows a player to “change the target(s)” of a spell or ability, each target can be changed only to another legal target...
 

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