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3 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2013 - 8:25AM
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Jun 29, 2011
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Restoration Angel  So some guy at Game Day tried to tell me that the ability was mandatory, as in I had to pick one of my non-Angel creatures and blink it. I cited the fact that the card said "may," but he was still not moved. Then, he called a "judge," and he sided with my opponent! I just need a confirmation. I'm one billion percent sure that I don't have to blink something if I don't want to.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2013 - 8:28AM
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May 15, 2001
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You are correct it is optional.
Putting the ability on the stack and choosing a target is required, but the blinking is optional.
MTG Rules Advisor
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3 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2013 - 8:28AM
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Apr 12, 2012
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You have to target something, and you have to put the ability on the stack.
When it resolves, feel free to opt not to exile the targeted creature.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2013 - 8:32AM
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Jun 29, 2011
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Thanks very much guys.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2013 - 12:12PM
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How do you handle stuff like this? Concern over rules arguments with a judge is the main reason I still don't do tournaments
Cannot be relied upon^
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3 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2013 - 12:16PM
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Jul 28, 2010
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you don't
the head judge's ruling is final, even if he is wrong
you can file a report with the DCI after the event
proud member of the 2011 community team
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3 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2013 - 12:19PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 12, 2012
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If a judge gets a rule wrong, I usually take an inquisitive approach to get to the right answer.
I'll say, "Wait, but if that's the case, I don't understand this rule..." and I'll either pull up the comp rules on my phone or try to paraphrase the rule from memory. If your rule-fu isn't quite so good, try asking a higher-level question like, "I don't quite understand what the meaning of 'you may' is on the card. Can you explain it?"
Depends on the judge, too. If I know the guy making the rules call well enough, I'll just straight up call him out.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2013 - 12:19PM
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Sep 17, 2005
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How do you handle stuff like this? Concern over rules arguments with a judge is the main reason I still don't do tournaments
Appeal to the head judge. The Head Judge's ruling is final and you have to live with it. You can try to talk to him after the event and find out why he disagrees with you. You can also file a complaint with DCI.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2013 - 12:21PM
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Oct 29, 2007
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How do you handle stuff like this?
you kindly inform the judge that they are mistaken if you're lucky they'll reverse any ruling they make
if there's a separate Head Judge, you can appeal to them
if neither of those work, you're out of luck as the Tournament Rules stipulate that the Head Judge's ruling is final.
If an actual DCI Judge walked in, they'd have no authority for the event unless granted it by the Tournament Organizer or Head Judge.
Same is true if it was Matt Tabak...
granted, the Judge would be foolish not to accept their input if they offered it,
but ignorant/misinformed/mistaken rulings by Head Judges are still final.
If you wish to protest the ruling, it typically has to be lodged in the reporting software with the tournament results and someone from Wizards or the DCI may follow it up later, but the ruling would still stand.
MtG Rules Advisor &
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3 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2013 - 12:21PM
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Mar 30, 2011
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Most judges would be willing to speak with you after the match is over to discuss a ruling. If you're sure the ruling was wrong, you can show the rules references to explain why. It can't change what already happened, but it will be a learning experience regardless (for you or the judge).
Remember that the "Head Judge" of a regular REL event (FNM, etc.) is the Tournament Organizer by default, so while that person's answers will be considered final and you must abide by them, they are not always rules experts... And even experienced judges are human, capable of mistakes. I try to make one every once in a while just to remind people I'm not a robot (haha, not on purpose, of course).
I hope you're never afraid to call a judge, since we're there to help players, after all.
Level 2 DCI Judge
Orange, CA
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