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3 months ago  ::  Mar 09, 2013 - 9:48AM #11
froofroo
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So you basicly made akroma in all other colors. Im also going to guess that you play alot of commander.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 09, 2013 - 9:55AM #12
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I'm sorry flying trample haste bothers me.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 09, 2013 - 10:44AM #13
purplebackpack89
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  • Angel of a Higher Calling seems fair because it only performs the action once.
  • Arnaa doesn’t feel very red.
  • Arnaya is actually underpowered in today’s pricing. As a legendary at that cost, it could probably grant Flying, First Strike, Vigilance, and protection from green and blue to all your creatures
  • I’d up Dragon of Aun’s ability cost from to
  • I think you could get away with costing Eghra as

    Other than that, they're pretty good.  I like the concepts.  They'd go well in a Kaalia deck

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 09, 2013 - 10:48AM #14
Shamsiel
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I like lifelink in . It makes more sense in in than . Also, kudos for having a character that isn't a mindless brute. You have nothing but support from moi

A more mechanically accurate thingy would be a regenerate mechanic that applies to other creatures, however.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 09, 2013 - 10:50AM #15
Shamsiel
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Mar 9, 2013 -- 9:13AM, Fallingman wrote:

I'm not sure "omnibenevolence" fits Red's philosophy.  Universal love for all is a much different concept than a strong emotional bond with individual friends, comrades or family.  Red goes with its deep-down feelings moment to moment, and if a stranger wrongs you, your immediate gut feeling is anger or frustration, even if your conscious good nature allows you to forgive and love that stranger.  Of course we're talking about human beings here, so who knows what reaction an Angel would have.  I dunno.

That said, I think it would be an interesting exercise to find an interpretation of this flavor that actually fits mechanically with Red. 




Given that some aligned angels are embodiments of a particular virtue, and some things in the past were embodiments of specific emotions, I think a angel that embodies compassion is more than decent.


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3 months ago  ::  Mar 09, 2013 - 11:10AM #16
purplebackpack89
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  • Necropolis Demon feels more red than black.  I’d definitely switch out protection from red for protection from green
  • Deathwarped Angel and Kennjha could do more
  • Marjhog is pretty cool
  • For Muunrai’s cast cost, you could put that Dragon or Demon onto the battlefield
  • Quarlay’s pretty good, but I’d make it protection from white or green  
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 09, 2013 - 11:57AM #17
Fallingman
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Mar 9, 2013 -- 10:50AM, Shamsiel wrote:

Mar 9, 2013 -- 9:13AM, Fallingman wrote:

I'm not sure "omnibenevolence" fits Red's philosophy.  Universal love for all is a much different concept than a strong emotional bond with individual friends, comrades or family.  Red goes with its deep-down feelings moment to moment, and if a stranger wrongs you, your immediate gut feeling is anger or frustration, even if your conscious good nature allows you to forgive and love that stranger.  Of course we're talking about human beings here, so who knows what reaction an Angel would have.  I dunno.

That said, I think it would be an interesting exercise to find an interpretation of this flavor that actually fits mechanically with Red. 




Given that some aligned angels are embodiments of a particular virtue, and some things in the past were embodiments of specific emotions, I think a angel that embodies compassion is more than decent.




Yeah, I like where it's going.  Red deserves to get cards that show emotions other than fear and anger.  But I think there's a difference between compassion for an individual based on seeing their own needs as a person versus compassion for all life based on an unconditional ideal.  From what I understand of Red, its belief in love, compassion, justice and other positive emotions can be very strong, but they come from individual events, not moral guidelines (fighting for right because they've seen the effects of terrible injustice first-hand, or offering compassionate help because they see someone close to them suffering).  Red has a hard time seeing the big picture.

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