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3 months ago  ::  Feb 25, 2013 - 10:36AM #1
SimpleMan
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Does anyone know how this deck surprised everyone? When Gatecrash was first spoiled, the hype for Burningtree Emissary was already pretty widespread. Everyone I talked to was dreaming of the perfect T1 Champion of the Parish into T2 Burningtree Emissary+Lightning Mauler. Swing for 7. Yet watching the GP this weekend, it seemed like it took everyone by surprise. I dont understand this. If this was new tech I could, but people have been playing this deck since Gatecrash was released. Why was the meta so unprepared for this?
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 25, 2013 - 10:55AM #2
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I don't think it was so much that it took people by surprise, I think its just a good deck.

I still feel a little bad for Reid Duke.  I love Naya Humans, but my God that match was brutal.  Topdecked Searing Spear to lose game 1.  Lose to nut draw game 3.  Good thing he's Reid Duke.  Otherwise, tables would have surely been flipped.
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 25, 2013 - 11:05AM #3
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Feb 25, 2013 -- 10:55AM, ajb1238 wrote:

I don't think it was so much that it took people by surprise, I think its just a good deck.




Going to have to agree.  Certain starts can just be straight up unbeatable, and even running something like 8 early answers to its threats won't guarantee you draw them early enough to matter, let alone at all.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 25, 2013 - 11:12AM #4
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I think it was because the old Naya Humans was a really bad deck. Like completely awful. They're finally tuned it to not be such a piece of garbage which is why it did so well. In a format such as this one I think it will be rotating between which aggro decks are the best for a while. 
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 25, 2013 - 11:25AM #5
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The meta isn't unprepared.  This is just the best deck.

Rip up your Revelations and throw them away.  That card is hot garbage.

Yes, this is what I'm playing now.

Those who know me can count the time I've given up on brews on two fingers:

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Even during Caw, I was roflstomping with Brews.

I'm playing this now.  It's absolutely degenerate.
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 25, 2013 - 12:09PM #6
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Feb 25, 2013 -- 11:25AM, Islands wrote:

The meta isn't unprepared.  This is just the best deck.

Rip up your Revelations and throw them away.  That card is hot garbage.

Yes, this is what I'm playing now.

Those who know me can count the time I've given up on brews on two fingers:

Ravager Affinity
Delver

Even during Caw, I was roflstomping with Brews.

I'm playing this now.  It's absolutely degenerate.



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3 months ago  ::  Feb 25, 2013 - 1:32PM #7
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Feb 25, 2013 -- 12:09PM, Catotheyounger wrote:

Feb 25, 2013 -- 11:25AM, Islands wrote:

The meta isn't unprepared.  This is just the best deck.

Rip up your Revelations and throw them away.  That card is hot garbage.

Yes, this is what I'm playing now.

Those who know me can count the time I've given up on brews on two fingers:

Ravager Affinity
Delver

Even during Caw, I was roflstomping with Brews.

I'm playing this now.  It's absolutely degenerate.



Try to resist the urge to jam in 4x Tibalt.




lol I can't stop laughing...

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 25, 2013 - 3:16PM #8
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Feb 25, 2013 -- 11:25AM, Islands wrote:

The meta isn't unprepared.  This is just the best deck.

Rip up your Revelations and throw them away.  That card is hot garbage.

Yes, this is what I'm playing now.

Those who know me can count the time I've given up on brews on two fingers:

Ravager Affinity
Delver

Even during Caw, I was roflstomping with Brews.

I'm playing this now.  It's absolutely degenerate.



I picked this deck up as well after running 0-2 drop with Boros Humans two weeks in a row.  I looked at this list and just couldn't find anything two colors was better at other than slightly more consistent mana and spell lands.

At FNM, I put a guy to 2 life on turn 3, and mind you, that was through an Azorius Charm .  I'd have had a turn 3 kill otherwise.  This is the most punishing aggro deck in the format.  Slip up at all and you just might find yourself dead or in an unwinnable board state by turn 4.  I went 5-1 that night, losing to a version of the deck running Avacyn's Pilgrim , Silverblade Paladin , and Domri Rade , so he was able to go a little bigger than me and I didn't get an explosive enough draw.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 25, 2013 - 8:42PM #9
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The deck is really fast, but to be fair, Mr. Nico got some searingly hot draws during the final rounds. In general, very good openers with Champion, Emissary. I believe it was G3 of Semis vs Reid Duke; Duke was at like 1 life but had stablizied the board with Olivia. Nico topdecks Spear for the win, but imagine if he didn't get the nut topdeck and instead Duke peels a thraggy or something--Duke wins instead.

Naya humans is really mediocre if the opener isn't top-notch; it doesn't have the late/midgame potential that BR aggro has. That said, there isn't a lot that can disrupt a nut draw on the play (take 7+ right after you play your first land). I wonder if R&D considered reprinting shock to deal with the absurd speed potential of Emmissary, Mauler. 

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 25, 2013 - 9:13PM #10
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Of course Naya Blitz smashes people; 4 Blue Sun's Zeniths with a bit of life attached does not sound like a good plan in most formats for a control deck to rely on. Midrange decks are everywhere. Why do ya'll think I've been playing BUG this whole time? Not as a parlor trick I tell ya.
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