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4 months ago  ::  Feb 23, 2013 - 9:22PM #101
GM_Champion
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Not everything can be honestly justified. Although, many people like to anyways with their own "greater good" excuse. However, there are also people who are just tyrannical and sociopathic. Meaning, they just do whatever they want without any concern for their evils they've done.

If you've created negativity in the world (pain, misery, suffering, torment), you've committed evil—and you can only technically make up for that. You can never undo it though, it's locked in time forever. And the only way to truly balance it, (as I've said before) is if you made it as though it had never been done—but you can't.

This is what we have the law for. Assault is illegal. Harassment is illegal. Slander, defamation of character; both illegal. If you're trying to justify committing any of these crimes, you're going to need a very strong case.

One of the worst of all would be trying to condemn a person's honest freedoms for your own selfish excuses. Like saying I shouldn't be here because it makes you upset. That's not at all fair, that's not justified. That's selfish tyranny of a person's honest freedom and enjoyment of a service provided to everyone equally within this online community.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 23, 2013 - 9:32PM #102
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I'm just going to go ahead and make a suggestion to everyone not to respond to GM Champion/Bankai.  Ever.  It never leads anywhere, he just gets people PO'd, and 99.9% of debates with him lead in circles .  Anyone who knows him should know better.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 23, 2013 - 9:36PM #103
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Feb 23, 2013 -- 9:32PM, Mono789 wrote:

I'm just going to go ahead and make a suggestion to everyone not to respond to GM Champion/Bankai.  Ever.  It never leads anywhere, he just gets people PO'd, and 99.9% of debates with him lead in circles .  Anyone who knows him should know better.




You're not doing what's right here. Are you trying to present yourself as the noble one, trying to play peacemaker? It's obvious that your true intention is to just underhandedly recommend that my activity in this Wizards Community is laid to waste. It's no different from the things Jessica_Morgan stated earlier, you're just saying it in a sly manner—but it's not actually sly, it's obvious.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 23, 2013 - 11:11PM #104
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Feb 23, 2013 -- 6:02AM, K9GM3 wrote:

I would even say that, if the colours do turn to evil, black is the best kind of evil you can have.

Black will steal, murder and torture... but only if that's the best course of action. Black doesn't commit evil acts because of a higher agenda: it commits evil acts because they're the most efficient way to get things done. Because of that, black can be reasoned with. It knows that making enemies is dangerous, and will avoid doing it if reasonably possible.

White, on the other hand, will commit evil acts because it believes them to be right. If white is after you, you can't persuade it to stop. After all, white believes in moral absolutism: if you do something white considers evil or wrong, it will inflict the punishment it considers appropriate, and anything you say in your defence will be dismissed as attempts to lead white off the True Path of Justice.

I'll take black villains over white villains any day.




I really like this.
It reminds me of a quote (I forget who said it) but it went something like "I'll take someone who reliably lies to me, than someone who only sometimes lies to me."

The concept being if someone always lies to you, you know that the opposite is true and it is relatively easy to be with them. But if you get soemone who sometimes lies and sometimes tells the truth. Even if they are overall "more good" than the other person. It is much harder to be with them.

Slightly different than what you pointed out, but it reminded me of it nonetheless.
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Feb 23, 2013 -- 9:06PM, -TheFlameReaper- wrote:

Ok, its gd to hear that iam not hated.
So can we just let this thread go to the 2nd page or lesser cos the problem's settled, ok?
EDIT: Geez, u leave a thread with an eye-catching title and it gets 92 posts when u wake up in the morning. 



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Feb 5, 2013 -- 9:38PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

I carefully examine the walls of the room in a determined effort to not follow the GMs plot.


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4 months ago  ::  Feb 23, 2013 - 11:23PM #105
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I almost had an intelligent reply to something here... But I lost my train of thought about 5 pages in.
Nonetheless, I'm thoroughly entertained.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 23, 2013 - 11:52PM #106
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toshiro umezawa is good black.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 24, 2013 - 3:52AM #107
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Feb 23, 2013 -- 11:52PM, Catotheyounger wrote:

toshiro umezawa is good black.




Indeed, we should never forget about him.


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4 months ago  ::  Feb 24, 2013 - 4:06AM #108
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El-Hajjaj was also another "good guy", so to speak.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 24, 2013 - 5:37AM #109
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Maralen of the Mornsong , anyone?

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 24, 2013 - 1:30PM #110
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Feb 23, 2013 -- 2:55PM, SuperSpawnWrithe wrote:

Are people saying blue because Curiosity ?




Only if it costs and draws you two cards.

Feb 23, 2013 -- 5:23PM, Shamsiel wrote:

My first instinct is to call that type of character (since they are basically preps and the "traditional male ideal").




You forgot that has a hypocrisy issue. Sounds like T.H. to me.

And now for something completely different.

Feb 23, 2013 -- 7:22PM, GM_Champion wrote:

was pure good because she only destroyed evil beings. People who could not be rehabilitated and would have tortured and extorted people all their lives; people who were a great danger to the innocent.




She almost destroyed a plane to do so. Darigaaz and Rith wanted to destroy the Phyrexians, but the ended up going on a genocidal rampage in the process. Also, Akroma was only concerned with killing Phage. She was created out of revenge.

Feb 23, 2013 -- 7:22PM, GM_Champion wrote:

I've explained Wrath of God and Armageddon to you all on at least three separate occasions. It wasn't a vague explanation either, it was very detailed.




Killing everyone is the same as killing only the wicked.

Actually, I can see that.

Feb 23, 2013 -- 7:22PM, GM_Champion wrote:

This time, you only get a vague explanation. Wrath of God is meant to symbolize the same wrath as Akroma—the destroying of only the wicked. Garfield likely just didn't want to channel the design to perfectly represent that because a higher cost would have made it borderline useless (like Plague Wind ); and if it spared your white creatures from being destroyed, a higher cost would have been demanded. To keep it simple, useful, and powerful, Garfield utilized a simple full sweep, and left the flavor in the undertow—being indirectly symbolic of a wrath that destroys only the wicked.




Except your "simple, useful, and powerful" argument ignores so many Alpha cards . All of those cards are arguably top-down: Sengir's only useful without the rider that a creature has to have been damaged by him. Rushing River, Camouflage, and Lich are in, I believe, four-point font.

Feb 23, 2013 -- 7:22PM, GM_Champion wrote:

Armageddon is much the same, but it represents the destruction of the entire world in the event the entire world becomes wicked. This concept ties into certain excerpts from the Bible (like in Genesis 18). In these cases, it states that God will not destroy the innocent or the righteous—God will only destroy the wicked (people who are a danger to others). If there is even one righteous person, God will not destroy the city, because it's treacherous to destroy the innocent. In the event the entire world becomes filled with evil people (who are hurting others and being malicious), God will destroy the entire world in Armageddon to cleanse it. Here again, the flavor was implied and it wasn't prevalent through the operating function.




And kill ALL the babies!

Feb 23, 2013 -- 7:22PM, GM_Champion wrote:

I know there are other White cards you're going to question, but spare yourself. Remember that for a long time, people have been purposely creating white cards based on a twisted representation of white's founding principals—so cards like Konda, Lord of Eiganjo and Elesh Norn are not going to be true to that foundation, they were designed to embody those twisted characteristics and virtues.




You mean like lynchmob leader here ?

Feb 23, 2013 -- 9:08PM, Matt_Holck wrote:

we all have this physical plane in common




I don't know about you, but I see nothing but metal all around me. I'd better put sunscreen on too. It's like five really, really hot lights.

Jun 27, 2012 -- 12:04AM, GM_Champion wrote:

Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.


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