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3 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 9:07PM #1
-TheFlameReaper-
Date Joined: Nov 10, 2012
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Yah i wanted to ask this , cos im worried bout this:

Feb 22, 2013 -- 5:40AM, Shamsiel wrote:

Feb 22, 2013 -- 2:28AM, -TheFlameReaper- wrote:

Feb 21, 2013 -- 10:09PM, idrinkyourmilkshake wrote:

Feb 21, 2013 -- 4:01PM, bay_falconer wrote:

Feb 21, 2013 -- 12:34AM, -TheFlameReaper- wrote:

Shamsiel: (4/10)
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Im sorry but i dont like it. I wanted a gd version of him and u gave him Black. It also doesnt have relation to dragons anymore. Try harder next time.




Black is not evil. Black is a collection of tropes we think of as evil, but not necessarily.



Agreed.  Black is just honest about its intentions and has no need for morals.  Black embodies the ideas of amorality and parasitism.




I know they each color in Magic has its good and bad side but its just u know weird when u say good is Black, it well just doesnt have enough gd in Black to make it gd. But thats just my thoughts.



Black represents individuality, pragmatism, moral relativism, ambition, self worth and the drive to live. It is not frequently good, but when it is good, it's VERY good.
If you think those are evil, then go be a worthless rock, because then you will not be ambitious (i.e. wanting to improve your life), have self worth (self explanatory), be pragmatic (i.e. taking full advantage of your position and resources), be morally relativistic (i.e. not being the kind of person who sees the world in black and white morality) or an individual (self explanatory).
If you honestly think Black is evil, then go live in Saudi Arabia, the least Black place in existence.
To make matters worse, you're being hilariously anti-creative. You want people to conform to things you take for granted, instead of showing the real purpose of this sort of competiton, to be original.
Way to destroy your own credibility. Nonetheless, have a fine day in your ignorance and stupidity ridden fantasies, kind sir. k




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Yes, you do have the Denizen, and you do have the Reckoner
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May 10, 2013 -- 6:41PM, Iam_IronMan wrote:

I was browsing through some cards in gatherer and I noticed something really odd - the transforming cards from Innistrad like Mayor of Avabruck have separate comments and ratings for each side. Isn't that totally stupid? It feels as senseless as having two different pages for each side of a split card or having different pages for Nimble Mongoose with and without threshold.



May 23, 2013 -- 10:51PM, squinty_eyes wrote:

May 23, 2013 -- 10:33PM, -TheFlameReaper- wrote:

ANYONE???????????????


If I say "yes," am I just gonna die to your new COME AT ME BRO deck?

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 9:13PM #2
Glasir
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Hated? Why?

You posted a quick, one-sided view of black; Shamsiel pointed out (rather harshly) that it's not all evil.  Pick out the good bits from the hostility, learn, and move on. 
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 9:15PM #3
-TheFlameReaper-
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Feb 22, 2013 -- 9:13PM, Glasir wrote:

Hated? Why?

You posted a quick, one-sided view of black; Shamsiel pointed out (rather harshly) that it's not all evil.  Pick out the good bits from the hostility, learn, and move on. 




Well hes seriously angry now and i know what alot of my freinds do when theyre angry with someone.

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May 17, 2013 -- 8:14AM, Gathered wrote:


Yes, you do have the Denizen, and you do have the Reckoner
But there is one thing you don't have.

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A flyer :P



May 10, 2013 -- 6:41PM, Iam_IronMan wrote:

I was browsing through some cards in gatherer and I noticed something really odd - the transforming cards from Innistrad like Mayor of Avabruck have separate comments and ratings for each side. Isn't that totally stupid? It feels as senseless as having two different pages for each side of a split card or having different pages for Nimble Mongoose with and without threshold.



May 23, 2013 -- 10:51PM, squinty_eyes wrote:

May 23, 2013 -- 10:33PM, -TheFlameReaper- wrote:

ANYONE???????????????


If I say "yes," am I just gonna die to your new COME AT ME BRO deck?

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 9:17PM #4
GM_Champion
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Even when you're hated, everything is subject to change.

You've just got to find the path to redemption.


Aaaaaaaaaaaaand, black in Magic: the Gathering is symbolic of evil. No matter what your ideal might be about it, that's just not reality—and reality won't bend to your ideals.

In reality, black represents pure evil. It's the polar-opposite of white, which is symbolic of light, pure good.

It's just like Yin and Yang.
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 9:25PM #5
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One person arguing with you is hardly being hated.  Also, he should learn to do it more constructively and less insultingly.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 9:31PM #6
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Feb 22, 2013 -- 9:17PM, GM_Champion wrote:

Even when you're hated, everything is subject to change.

You've just got to find the path to redemption.


Aaaaaaaaaaaaand, black in Magic: the Gathering is symbolic of evil. No matter what your ideal might be about it, that's just not reality—and reality won't bend to your ideals.

In reality, black represents pure evil. It's the polar-opposite of white, which is symbolic of light, pure good.

It's just like Yin and Yang.


White can also be a totatiltarian dictatorship. White is just the community, that is all. It can be expressed many ways, selflessness or whatever, but it can still be a rigid ruthless dictatorship.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 9:45PM #7
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Totalitarian dictatorship (in the essence of tyranny), that would be a black concept; meaning a black entity is the governing power.

Government is itself a neutral entity, and a government's alignment depends on those in power. Evil people has risen to power in government many times. White entities would never be totalitarian or tyrannical, that violates their virtues. When the people in power are good, that's when order, justice, and fairness rule—making the governing power white. However, since society is a bit more complex than this, it'll never truly be monowhite—white will simply govern over all things. Meaning all matters will conducted in the spirit of fairness, order, and honesty.
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 9:47PM #8
SimpleDreams
Date Joined: Jan 30, 2011
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Who are you?

Ours is a vengeful god.
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 9:49PM #9
Jessica_Morgan
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GM_Champion, go infect some other forum. You're unwelcome here.

Flame Reaper, I, for one, still like ya very much. Just don't do anything GM_Champion suggests (ever) and you'll do just fine. 
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 9:57PM #10
dtolle
Date Joined: Dec 24, 2012
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Its a flavor based arguement. Being as there is nothing I know of that says in MtG Black is evil or White is good, its completely open to opinion. In favor of the black as good arguement look at Sorin in Innistrad, or Enemy of the Guildpact (you have to read the flavour text on enemy.) In my oppinion the flavor and setting dictate whether something is "bad" in MtG. Look at New Phyrexia where the only color that was not totally converted was red, which is usually considered rude and selfish.

That being said... I don't hate you. 
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