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3 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 6:30AM #1
shalafibahamut
Date Joined: Nov 12, 2012
Posts: 128
its my main phaze. i declare attackers (3) one of my attacking creatures is unblockeble. and it is cipher ed with voidwalk .

my opponent has 1 creature to block.

non of the creatures has first strike.

defending player still choses to block witch attacker he wants i guess.??

as the damage will be dealth alltogether at the end of the combat step.

and only then the chippered voidwalk will activate.

 so the if the blocker survived it will be exiled after the combat step. and will be back at the beginning of the end step.

am i right? whats a better strategy ?
 
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 6:34AM #2
Enigma256
Date Joined: Jul 28, 2010
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you exile one of your creatures
preferably one that has an ETB trigger
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 6:36AM #3
Hallow36
Date Joined: Aug 3, 2011
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Yes, Voidwalk can be cast and is put on the stack as soon as combat damage is dealt. If you choose to exile a creature at that point it will return to the battlefield at the beginning of the end step, it will return untapped (unless otherwise stated), and any marked damage or counters on it before the exile will be removed.
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 6:38AM #4
Kenjiblade
Date Joined: May 6, 2011
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Keep in mind that casting a copy of the encoded card is optional.  For example, if all of your other creatures have shroud, and your opponent's creatures have hexproof, and your Phage the Untouchable was the only legal target, then obviously you wouldn't want to cast a copy of Voidwalk , since Phage's triggered ability would cause you to lose the game when it returns to the battlefield.
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 6:41AM #5
shalafibahamut
Date Joined: Nov 12, 2012
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Feb 22, 2013 -- 6:34AM, Enigma256 wrote:

you exile one of your creatures
preferably one that has an ETB trigger




hmm i could exile sage of epityr for example. and use its triggered abilty again :D

tnx 

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 22, 2013 - 7:02AM #6
rezzahan
Date Joined: Mar 12, 2011
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A few corrections:

Feb 22, 2013 -- 6:30AM, shalafibahamut wrote:

its my main phaze. i declare attackers (3) one of my attacking creatures is unblockeble. and it is cipher ed with voidwalk .



You declare attackers in the declare attackers step during the turn based action of declaring attackers, which is the very first thing that happens during that step. This step is the second step in the combat phase.

Feb 22, 2013 -- 6:30AM, shalafibahamut wrote:

as the damage will be dealth alltogether at the end of the combat step.



Combat damage is assigned and dealt during the turn based actions of the combat damage step, and it is the first thing you do when that step begins.

Feb 22, 2013 -- 6:30AM, shalafibahamut wrote:

and only then the chippered voidwalk will activate.



Cypher will trigger, and that trigger, once it resolves, allows you to cast a copy of the encoded card.

Feb 22, 2013 -- 6:30AM, shalafibahamut wrote:

so the if the blocker survived it will be exiled after the combat step. and will be back at the beginning of the end step.



Since the combat damage is dealt in the combat damage step, the cypher trigger will be put on the stack in that step and therefore will resolve in that step allowing you to cast the copy of the encoded card. Thus the creature will get exiled in the combat damage step. The creature will return in the end step, but it won't be around at the beginning of the end step. That's when the delayed trigger to return it will be put on the stack.

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