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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2013 - 2:43PM #1
Mown
Date Joined: Apr 28, 2008
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Sorcery
Target player puts all cards in his or her hand face-down onto the battlefield under that player's control as a green Ooze creature with power and toughness equal to the number of cards in it.
"Don't let your thoughts wander off."

Scrollslime
Sorcery
Put the top two cards of your library face-down onto the battlefield as a 2/2 green Ooze creature.
It's dripping with knowledge.

Hey look at my terrible puns.
You can now go ahead and mention all the cards it breaks the game with. Although I think they're an interesting thought experiment, so go ahead and write your expected outcome. Currently one event I don't know what to do with.

Jan 18, 2012 -- 3:34AM, Imidazoline wrote:

Everything Mown does is elegant.


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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2013 - 2:51PM #2
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Break Open ?
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2013 - 2:53PM #3
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Feb 20, 2013 -- 2:51PM, Shazzeh wrote:

Break Open ?



Correct. I have no idea what to do with that card, other than defining it as something other than a face-down creature.

Jan 18, 2012 -- 3:34AM, Imidazoline wrote:

Everything Mown does is elegant.


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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2013 - 2:56PM #4
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Feb 20, 2013 -- 2:53PM, Mown wrote:

Feb 20, 2013 -- 2:51PM, Shazzeh wrote:

Break Open ?



Correct. I have no idea what to do with that card, other than defining it as something other than a face-down creature.



Exile the cards face down and then just have a dude with p/t equal to the number of cards you exiled?


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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2013 - 3:02PM #5
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Feb 20, 2013 -- 2:56PM, SimpleDreams wrote:

Exile the cards face down and then just have a dude with p/t equal to the number of cards you exiled?



Sort of applies a sledgehammer to the cute interactions I like about the mechanic, making it pointless.

Jan 18, 2012 -- 3:34AM, Imidazoline wrote:

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2013 - 3:10PM #6
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Feb 20, 2013 -- 3:02PM, Mown wrote:

Feb 20, 2013 -- 2:56PM, SimpleDreams wrote:

Exile the cards face down and then just have a dude with p/t equal to the number of cards you exiled?



Sort of applies a sledgehammer to the cute interactions I like about the mechanic, making it pointless.



Sometimes the red way is the right way.


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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2013 - 4:27PM #7
Imidazoline
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Yeah, I kinda don't like how morph neutered the whole face down thing into 'THEY ARE 2/2 CREATURES YEAH'.
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2013 - 5:01PM #8
ChaosLight
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I think you can get around this as its a stack of creatures, rather than a single face down. Just get some comp rules governing creatures stapled together.
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2013 - 8:09PM #9
FezzHead
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This really screws with the rules because you have a single game object (a creature) being represented simultaneously by multiple physical objects. I don't know if black-bordered Magic can handle S.N.O.T.
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2013 - 10:17PM #10
TPmanW
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Unsummon . What goes back to your hand?
Runed Halo . Is it rendered ineffective?
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