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3 months ago ::
Feb 16, 2013 - 12:00PM
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Inspired by Evolution Charm  . While flight is rather idiotically forbidden in  , I think short term flight would be a nice touch. It'd be like creature control in  , distinguished from in other colours by it's brevity.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 16, 2013 - 12:20PM
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The only flying I'd think you could put in green is throwing  , but red already has it. I think pseudoflying  is good enough anyway.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 16, 2013 - 12:32PM
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Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 16, 2013 - 12:44PM
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This sounds like a question for Mark Rosewater, COLOR PIE GURU!I asked it on his Blogatog, but there's no guarantee he'll answer it of course.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 16, 2013 - 12:50PM
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This sounds like a question for Mark Rosewater, COLOR PIE GURU!
I asked it on his Blogatog, but there's no guarantee he'll answer it of course.
The better question is "Why doesn't green..., and don't talk about 'mechanical identity' either, in an era of green getting linear artifact love at common."
Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.
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[c]Lightning Bolt[/c] = Lightning Bolt
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3 months ago ::
Feb 16, 2013 - 1:02PM
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The only flying I'd think you could put in green is throwing , but red already has it.
I think pseudoflying is good enough anyway.
No, it's the culture in Design more than anything. Basically they're a bunch of scrubs who got beaten by a Scryb Sprites  because they failed to Terror  it for 20 turns. They're POed that blue sucked in limited in first drafts, so they decide blue has to have all the playable creatures, and green gets nothing.
I have to say, even after all of the arguments and theories I've heard for Magic R&D shifting the color pie over the years, I don't think insistance that they are all just a bunch of butt-hurt scrubs has ever come up before. That would be interesting, considering that their group is made up of some of the most knowledgable and skilled players the game knows. Sure, their judgement of the power level of certain cards they release is sometimes way off, but they aren't strangers to how the game is played.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 16, 2013 - 1:21PM
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Then why does Maro think green getting flying would break the game? I can find green mana ramp cards that really  are  busted  , but mana ramp's still green. We still have free artifacts in Modern, in spite of lolaffinity. We still have "life for cards" engines, though that's really busted  and beyond redemption  . Blue still gets card draw  and extra turns  , and even counterspells  . Broken, broken, and broken. Boardwipes  are really overpowered in white. So's red looting  . There really is no really powerful green flyer. Killer Bees  and Hornet Queen  come closest. Green doesn't get flying so flying hate can exist, really.
Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.
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[c]Lightning Bolt[/c] = Lightning Bolt
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3 months ago ::
Feb 16, 2013 - 1:28PM
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Every time someone uses Planar Chaos to justify color identity, Gleemax kills a beeble.
Moving to Design & Development Theory.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 16, 2013 - 1:33PM
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I don't think temporary flight really accomplishes much that green can't already accomplish. Offensively, green already has access to Spire Tracer  -type evasion, and defensively it has access to reach. So green can already do either half of that effect independently; the only difference this would make is the flexibility of being able to do one or the other as needed instead of only one. ...What purpose would printing this effect serve? (And please, let's not let this thread get dragged down into a discussion of whether or not green should get flying at all; we already have a thread for that, and spreading the argument across multiple threads serves no purpose.)
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3 months ago ::
Feb 16, 2013 - 1:43PM
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Then why does Maro think green getting flying would break the game?
Colors need to have clear identities, both for flavor and playability reasons. I'm amazed at how many people still don't understand this. #ColorPie4Life
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"I think "Highly Informed Sarcasm" should be our Magic Online General motto." -Ith
"Sorry, but this thread seems just like spam. TT is for off-topic discussion, not no-topic discussion."
-WizO_Kwai_Chang
"Stop that! If you're not careful, rational thinking may catch on!" -Sax
"... the only word i see that fits is incompitant." -Mr44 (sic)
"You know a thread is gonna be locked when it gets to the hexadecimal stage." -Gathion
"It's a good gig" - Gleemax
"I tell people often, if you guys want to rant, you've certainly got the right to (provided you obey CoC/ToS stuff), and I don't even really blame you. But if you see something you think needs changing a well thought-out, constructive post does more to make that happen." - Worth Wollpert
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