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Feb 16, 2013 -- 4:42PM, puzzledmint wrote:

What, no Taco Bell ?

That is hilarious.  I have to add it just for that nickname

Remand is a splendid idea, I'll probably run it over Counterspell just to keep things Modern legal.  Not to mention it's incredibly annoying.  Most people I play it on say they would prefer if i'd just countered it the normal way, or even exiled it haha

Owls are a good idea, I'll see if I can find room for them.  Not as efficient as Black Vise but that card is... well it's too mean.  This deck used to have vises, but I took them out for being to brutal.

not looking to add another color, BUT I do have a very similar Underworld Dreams deck I could run some of those red cards in, so thanks for the suggestions

Slaver might be fun as a 1 shot thing just to force  "that guy" to mill himself.

Cyclonic Rift and Blind obedience are neat ideas, but what to replace?

I also realized I forgot that the deck already has Vision Skeins in it , so the list I originally posted is missing 3 cards.

anyways, here's the tentative new list:

Creatures:

what are "cree tours"?

Artifacts/Enchantments:

4 x Oblivion Ring
4 x Forced Fruition
3 x Solitary Confinement
4 x Psychic Possession
4 x Greater Auramancy
2 x Temple Bell
1 x Mindslaver

Instant/Sorcery:

4 x Vision Skeins
4 x Remand
4 x Vex

Planeswalker:

2 x Jace Beleren

Land:

1 x Loneley Sandbar
1 x Shelldock Isle
2 x Mikokoro, Center of the Sea
9 x Plains
12 x Island


any thoughts on keeping Jace around?  In this deck Taco Bell does the same thing, but I can play multiples and it's easier to cast.

Feb 16, 2013 -- 8:13PM, BobbertZhubert wrote:

Keep Jace because of your opponent is just waiting around and not playing spells, Jace's Ult can act as the final finisher. 

that's what I added Mindslaver for, but I think I'll keep Jace around anyways just for the lulz.  He's been in the deck since its inception back when the original 5 PWs came out.  I always thought it was funny that I made his +2 ability part of the focus of the deck, where everyone else used his -1 as a couple card draws before he died haha

I kinda don't either, it's not in the spirit of the deck, really, but I can't deny its utility.

I've played multiplayer games where there's one guy who gets his deck to work before I can get cooking and he just sits on all his cards forcing me to mill him with Mikokoro, Jace and Vision Skeins.  Mindslaver finishes that guy off much faster than an ultimate from Jace would.

Also, "that guy" usually sits on his cards because he knows he has an answer to my deck and he's either waiting to draw it, or waiting for me to tap out so I can't counter, or (and this is the most common reason) he's waiting for my deck to kill everyone else before he takes me out. A slaver would say "too bad, you're drawing your deck then discarding your answers."