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3 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 6:02PM
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I've recently regained interest in MTG (haven't played the game since about 2004). Some friends and I decided to get back into it (trying out tourneys and all), so we are going to build Type 2 standard decks. I've sort of settled into a hard-headed desire to create an Angel deck (I had one many years ago), but was dismayed at the price of the slightly older theme decks that I could find on Amazon. I've found a custom pre-made deck that I am considering buying and using as a baseline. There have been so many changes to MTG since I've been out of it that I'm kind of overwhelmed. Anyway, this is the deck that I am looking to purchase. 24x Plains  1x Seraph Sanctuary  2x Bladed Bracers  1x Scroll of Avacyn  2x Righteous Blow  1x Vanguard's Shield  2x Cursebreak  2x Angelic Wall  2x Divine Favor  2x Avenging Arrow  2x Divine Verdict  2x Angel's Mercy  2x Seraph of Dawn  2x Knightly Valor  2x Voice of the Provinces  1x Ring of Thune  2x War Priest of Thune  1x Angelic Benediction  2x Serra Angel  2x Archangel  1x Serra Avenger  1x Herald of War  1x Requiem Angel  I'd like to substitute in some more impressive large Angels, if I find that they are Type 2 Legal. How does this deck look for a starter? What's a good direction to take this deck? Or would it be better for me to grab a theme deck? I've read that Angels are not well represented in this current iteration of MTG. I really would prefer to use them, but if there's something else that might suit me better, I am open to suggestions.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 7:52PM
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There are some very fine Angel creatures in today's Standard, but there's not really enough for an Angel Tribal deck - at least not a very good one. That's my view in any case. Restoration Angel  and Sublime Archangel  are two of the most popular cards in Standard today. Sigarda, Host of Herons  and Angel of Serenity  see some play. The really beefy girls are used in Reanimator decks. These are decks that purposefully discard high-casting cost cards and play them out of the graveyard with Unburial Rites  typically. Probably the only way to play a mostly-Angel deck would be to use   and add a little mana-ramp in the form of Avacyn's Pilgrim  and Arbor Elf  or perhaps Farseek  . Naya, or  is also a possiblity but it's basically the same idea with a little thrown in. The trouble with more colors is you really need to spend more money to get the lands to run it properly. Personally, I wouldn't spend any money on the deck you listed. There isn't anything that I would use in a Standard-constructed deck except perhaps War Priest of Thune and he's more likely to be a side-board card. There was an intro deck not too long ago called Angelic Might that I've played casually. It could perhaps be tuned up into something usable at least for starters. Here's a link to it: www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/productarticle...There are a few M12 cards which are no longer Standard-legal and there is a fair number of awful cards in it as well but it's probably a better start than the deck you listed. It's almost my bed-time so I'm going to leave it at that, but if you want, I can try to help you out with a deck list tomorrow.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 8:26PM
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Yeah, I guess I will not be buying this set then.
I'd be greatful for a few pointers tomorrow.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 15, 2013 - 8:43PM
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Cut out angel's mercy. Now. It's terrible!!! The selesnya one is for one green one white gain 7 life. Also cut serra avenger. On your 4th turn you can play something much better.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 16, 2013 - 6:37AM
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Yeah, I guess I will not be buying this set then.
I'd be greatful for a few pointers tomorrow.
There are a few things you need to sort out before starting, not least of which is budget. The good Angels are expensive and the mana needed for multi-color decks adds up pretty quickly.
You also need to determine your tolerance for paying $10-$15 bucks or more a piece for cards that will be Standard-legal for only about six more months. The Innistrad block - Innsistrad, Dark Ascension, Avacyn Restored - is chock-full of Angels and a few of them are pretty good. Magic 2013 had three Angels, one of which is outstanding. The first two sets of the new block, Return to Ravnica, have six angels, one of which has a reasonable casting cost.
The best Angels in RtR are Angel of Serneity  , Aurelia, the Warleader  , and Firemane Avenger  . AoS is a finisher for control decks, Aurelia is playable in Naya ( ), and Firemane is playable in a Boros ( ) aggro deck.
There are some popular deck archtypes currently using Restoration Angel and Sublime Archangel . Though they seem to have dropped substantially, these are expensive cards; expect to pay close to $15 for Resto and closer to $20 for Sublime. Many of these decktypes are and the mana base for these decks would run around $90 - $100. Temple Garden  is RtR and good for over a year and Sunpetal Grove  is M13 and I couldn't tell you the likelyhood that it will be reprinted in M14. It's been around for the last four sets but you just never know.
If you're interested in Innistrad block cards, then is probably the way to go. If you want to stick to the new stuff, then or is the way to go.
Decide some of these things and we can get started on a deck list. Decide also how competitive you want to be as oppossed to how strictly you want to adhere to the Angel-tribal theme. There are a number of Angels that are almost Standard playable that one could use in a theme deck.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 16, 2013 - 10:31AM
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I'd have replied sooner, but I was having problems with this website. The html was all weird and I couldn't keep myself logged in to post replies.
I do like Angels, but I'd like the deck to be somewhat competetive. I know that there are other creature types that synergize well with them, and I wouldn't be opposed to mixing it up with them (though would still prefer that the Angels take the center stage).
I'm okay with spending a few bucks on the more choice cards, but if I'm going to be doing that, then I'd prefer it that my deck isn't composed of too many cards that are going out of Standard in just a few months.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 16, 2013 - 11:06AM
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3 months ago ::
Feb 17, 2013 - 10:25AM
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Wow, the cost of these cards really adds up.
I'm considering attacking this from a different angle and buying the new 'Boros Battalion' starter deck and going from there.
I do like Aurelia, but isn't there some rule against having multiple Legendaries? Why have two in the deck?
Those double color lands are really nice, but also prohibitively expensive.
The Boros Battalion set comes with a Red/White land that enters the game tapped (no conditions allow it to enter untapped), but those are much cheaper.
I may have to settle for those for now.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 17, 2013 - 10:49AM
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Wow, the cost of these cards really adds up.
I'm considering attacking this from a different angle and buying the new 'Boros Battalion' starter deck and going from there.
I do like Aurelia, but isn't there some rule against having multiple Legendaries? Why have two in the deck?
Those double color lands are really nice, but also prohibitively expensive.
The Boros Battalion set comes with a Red/White land that enters the game tapped (no conditions allow it to enter untapped), but those are much cheaper.
I may have to settle for those for now.
While only one Legendary permanent or Planeswalker may be in play at a time, you normally should include multiples to increase your chances of actually drawing it. A card will do you no benefit if you do not draw it.
Considering she's only 6cmc, she's definitely a game winner. I admit to pairing her up with Gisela in my W/B/R Rites deck and if both hit the field, it's game over. Especially if a Boros Charm is sitting in my hand.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 17, 2013 - 1:47PM
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Wow, the cost of these cards really adds up.
I'm considering attacking this from a different angle and buying the new 'Boros Battalion' starter deck and going from there.
I do like Aurelia, but isn't there some rule against having multiple Legendaries? Why have two in the deck?
Those double color lands are really nice, but also prohibitively expensive.
The Boros Battalion set comes with a Red/White land that enters the game tapped (no conditions allow it to enter untapped), but those are much cheaper.
I may have to settle for those for now.
Cut the Reckoners and Aurelia and that is a cheap deck. Reckoner will drop in price soon and the deck would do okay without either.
The Boros Event deck should be available soon if it's not already. Event decks are much better than Intro decks and well worth the $10 difference. An Event deck is a fine way to start; Intro decks aren't really competitve against anything but other Intro decks and the really, really bad.
Here's the link for the Gatecrash Event deck:
www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/productarticle...
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